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Old 11-27-20, 12:49 PM
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I took my chain off the bike for thorough clean up to make transition to wax lube from now onwards. It is several weeks now when I decided to put the chain back on the bike and for the life of me, I can't find the quick link. I must have put it in some safe place in order not to lose it

Shopping on Amazon for new QLs, I find they can be quite expensive for just one piece ($20 and up to astronomical heights) or relatively cheap with only limited choice of what seems to be middle road, like these 6pairs for $26 CAD. Talking about 10spd chain (Shimano CN-HG54). I don't want to buy those for $10-15 for 6 pieces kind. I think the price has lots to do with the ability to re-use the QLs, or being able to re-use them more than just a several times.

What puzzled me is some comments people make on Amazon or here on the forums about the need for multiple QL to take along on the road because of the 'chain breaking'. I never broke a chain in my life and I don't get it. When people talk about breaking a chain, do they mean breaking the QL or some normal link that they replace with another QL, to finish the ride and get back home (so that they end up with two or more QLs on their chain)?

I don't go to LBSs because the choice of things like QLs there is mediocre at best (to which is added the virus precautions that are way overboard IMO) . I know that Amazon is premium prices when shopping for bike parts but at least its convenient, if the choice seems also to be quite limited.

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Old 11-27-20, 01:06 PM
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Why don't you try an online bike shop like Niagara, Tree Fort, Jensen, Universal Cycles etc? They may have better selection and could probably use (and would appreciate more) your business. If you don't go to your LBS don't be surprised if they are not there when you DO go.
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Old 11-27-20, 01:09 PM
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Chains do break occasionally. Not overly often, but it does happen. With the absolute minimal penalty of carrying more than one, one might as well carry more than one.
I donít think Iíve ever had a q/l break. But I have had a regular link fail a couple of times.
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Old 11-27-20, 01:23 PM
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I am by no means recommending these but I have some on my trainer with almost 5000 miles and on my hybrid with 2500 miles and zero problems. I keep an extra set in my under seat bags.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...TF8&th=1&psc=1

Make sure you select the correct size for your application.
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Old 11-27-20, 03:17 PM
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Thanks, I will go with this eBay seller, the Amazon 'Hotop' looks like no name brand, probably 'consumer grade'...

The KMC QLs on eBay look exactly like those from my Amazon link, except the KMC is on the outer part of the link and the 10S in the middle. Probably earlier or later manufacturing run? The CL559R is the same in both sources.

6 QLs from that eBay.com link will cost some three dollars more than if I buy from Amazon.ca, not the difference I would haggle about.
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Old 11-27-20, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vane171 View Post
I don't go to LBSs because the choice of things like QLs there is mediocre at best (to which is added the virus precautions that are way overboard IMO) . I know that Amazon is premium prices when shopping for bike parts but at least its convenient, if the choice seems also to be quite limited.
Our way overboard virus precautions have kept our staff/store COVID free from the beginning while other shops got it. Sorry that safety is less important to you than a quick link on a chain. Yeah you have to wait some extra time, that sucks but guess what we are all waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for COVID to end and the better job we do keeping safe the faster that can come around. Wear a mask, social distance, keep things clean and stay home if you are sick and maybe we can all go to some new normal that is better than what we have now.

In terms of selection sure, we won't stock everything because guess what we aren't a warehouse full of crap we are buying generally what sells or what we use on a regular basis. We may not have the fanciest stuff all the time but we do generally try and stock 8-9-10-11-12 speed master links to fit a decent variety of chains (we also have some 1/8 and 3/32 single speed stuff) but like most people during this crisis getting parts is tough. If we don't have something we can likely order it and if not maybe don't buy such an odd chain that doesn't use something more standard fare.

If a Connex, KMC, Shimano or SRAM master/quick/power... link doesn't work on my derailleur chain than I probably don't want that chain on my bikes.
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Just a sharing the experience note,

The 6/7/8 Quick Links in that ebay ad are the CL571 model and may not fit all 6/7/8 chains. I find the CL573 model a better "universal" fit in our work with those chains
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agree with most of the above. in the 6/7/8 speed world, the KMC or Sachs links will work fine on "almost any" chain. Once you go to the 9/10/11 chains, it's best to keep to the same manufacturer. I've had good luck with Connex links on Campagnolo chains. I'm running a Shimano quick link on my 11 speed ebike chain with no problem, you will definitely need a tool (pliers) to get that thing off. it really "snaps" together.

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Old 11-28-20, 07:00 PM
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I got those QL pliers already. I've seen many are sold with several QLs included but those are almost certainly some low end. But I don't know why I make life so hard, complicated. The bike I rode up to now has no QL, I clean the chain in place on the bike and when it is time to replace it, I use the tool to press out the spindle and put on the new chain the same way. Maybe that's why I don't even know why people break chains on the road LOL

I wrote sizable comment on buying from the LBSs but decided to say just this. What one buys online comes anyway or mostly from some LBSs out there, those that sell online, which today probably means on Amazon and eBay. Its just that they are not local to your place, but they are local to somebody else. So you might end up supporting bike shop in one town and people from that town may in turn support the shops in your town. Local bike shops in Toronto here have their own online shops (some leaving wanting in various measures) and I don't know about Amazon/eBay policies, if those shops that sell via their own online service can or maybe want to also sell on those third party online services - Amazon/eBay.

I bought two pairs of bike shoes in LBS (in normal times, I'd buy just one pair), because my feet are not run of the mill and even the rest of the items came from their online shops except bike computer because they only sell expensive ones (got XOSS on Amazon for a fraction of the cost here). From what I've seen of QLinks, I wasn't impressed, either in their shops or online sites.

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Old 11-29-20, 11:06 AM
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I clean the chain in place on the bike and when it is time to replace it, I use the tool to press out the spindle and put on the new chain the same way. Maybe that's why I don't even know why people break chains on the road LOL

From what I've seen of QLinks, I wasn't impressed, either in their shops or online sites.
In your case there really isn't any reason to use a quick link. They are great for people who like to take off the chain to clean and can be re-used. There is also a lot of silliness about the reliability and ease of use of QL's which IME have found them to be very reliable for myself and everyone else I know. Most failures are user error which doesn't happen too often.
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Old 11-30-20, 12:42 PM
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Thanks but since this is 'new' bike (secondhand but for me, its new) and it had QL on the chain, I might as well go with it. Its not like I can't appreciate the way it is easier to maintain the bike if you can take the chain off.
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