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Old 01-20-21, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
I don't know why you are not having success with glueless patches,
Because the Lezyne patches suck. They stick for while but then leak eventually. You were the one who mentioned it first and I was agreeing with your post. Park are fine, I've never had a problem with them.
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Old 01-21-21, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by August West View Post
Because the Lezyne patches suck. They stick for while but then leak eventually. You were the one who mentioned it first and I was agreeing with your post. Park are fine, I've never had a problem with them.
Got ya. I tried Lezyne myself and they did indeed suck as do all others out there besides the Park. I haven't been able to confirm this but I think Topeak Flypaper glueless patches are the Park patches with the Topeak trademark emblem printed on the patch itself, otherwise, they look exactly alike.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
Got ya. I tried Lezyne myself and they did indeed suck as do all others out there besides the Park. I haven't been able to confirm this but I think Topeak Flypaper glueless patches are the Park patches with the Topeak trademark emblem printed on the patch itself, otherwise, they look exactly alike.
I wonder if Park patches are the Rema of glueless. In other words, there is an adhesive used on them that isnít used on others. Park does say that they worked with 3M on the adhesive. If anyone knows contact adhesives, itís 3M.
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Tirichloroethylene in the Rema fluid is a rubber solvent and softens the tube to make it integrate with the glue and patch. You cannot arrive at a similar effect running dry.
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Old 01-22-21, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
I wonder if Park patches are the Rema of glueless. In other words, there is an adhesive used on them that isnít used on others. Park does say that they worked with 3M on the adhesive. If anyone knows contact adhesives, itís 3M.
I'm not so sure Park worked with 3M, I could be wrong, but here's what I remember. When I first started using glueless patches they said 3M on the box, I used those for maybe 10 years, then 3M stopped selling them and I was told that 3M didn't want to be in the bike business and sold the rights to Park.

If that is true what I said, then is Park making the patches for Topeak under the Park license?

By the way, Lezyne patches were among the worse glueless patches I've ever used, along with Skab which I think they sold the name rights to Slime some years back. Here's the interesting thing as to why I brought that up, I heard that Gorilla Glue company made a tough black tape, so I bought some and cut a square piece and applied it to a tube that had a hole, that darn Gorilla black tape held up just as long as the crappy glueless patches from Skab and Lezyne did for a lot less money, so the Gorilla black tape will get you home, but that's about it.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
I'm not so sure Park worked with 3M, I could be wrong, but here's what I remember. When I first started using glueless patches they said 3M on the box, I used those for maybe 10 years, then 3M stopped selling them and I was told that 3M didn't want to be in the bike business and sold the rights to Park.
Park says they worked with 3M on their GP-2 web page. 3M tends develop something and then off-load the technologies to others for marketing. 3M makes the patches for Park and just lets them market it. Canít say if Park is farming them out to others. Perhaps Topeak is also working with 3M.


By the way, Lezyne patches were among the worse glueless patches I've ever used, along with Skab which I think they sold the name rights to Slime some years back. Here's the interesting thing as to why I brought that up, I heard that Gorilla Glue company made a tough black tape, so I bought some and cut a square piece and applied it to a tube that had a hole, that darn Gorilla black tape held up just as long as the crappy glueless patches from Skab and Lezyne did for a lot less money, so the Gorilla black tape will get you home, but that's about it.
Thus my previous comments about glueless patches. There may be some good ones out there but the early ones were pretty bad. But there are a whole lot of bad glue based patch kits out there too.

Gorilla Tape might work but Itís not going to be very permanent and will probably ruin the tube for a cold vulcanizing patch.
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I replaced my spoke wheels with magnesium alloy wheels from China I got on ebay. That was more than two years ago and the causes of so many of my flat tires was pin-hole leaks from the spoke nuts even though I had rubber gaskets covering them. Since I changed to wheels with smooth interiors I have not had a flat tire even after putting more miles on my bike than I used to. This has been more than a luxury to have freedom from flat tires upsetting the apple cart in my life when I needed to get to appointments.
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Originally Posted by drbarney1 View Post
...causes of so many of my flat tires was pin-hole leaks from the spoke nuts even though I had rubber gaskets covering them.
I wonder... Could sanding and polishing the heads of the spoke nuts have remedied this problem? Could you have sanded and polished them on the wheel?
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Old 01-25-21, 02:17 AM
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That might have worked but I was unwilling to trust it because replacing the wheels guaranteed an end to this problem. I also like the look and style of mag wheels which I had painted with premium urethane paint the lime green color of the Chevrolet Spark. The seller claims they weigh less than most spoke wheels and the are probably stronger, but I am not a competitive rider so even if they weigh a pound or two more, I would never notice.
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Old 01-25-21, 02:29 AM
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I don't trust spoke nuts enough to try it.

Originally Posted by zandoval View Post
I wonder... Could sanding and polishing the heads of the spoke nuts have remedied this problem? Could you have sanded and polished them on the wheel?
There is no guarantee it would have worked but the replacement wheels were a 100% way to eliminate the problem. I also like the style of the mag wheels better than spokes. The ebay seller claims they are lighter than steel spoke wheels but even if they are not, a pound or two difference is inconsequential because I use my bike for transportation. I do not compete in bike races. While I know of no destructive strength tests to make a comparison, I think the claim mag wheels are stronger is credible. Either way, like spoke wheels they are more than strong enough. Another virtue is I never have to suffer the tedium it inflicts to true up the spokes,
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