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Old 03-10-21, 02:34 PM
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Is this normal?

Hi all

Was out on a ride yesterday and got a puncture in my back tyre. Removed the wheel (Mavic Ksyrium Elite disc) to repair the puncture and the part of the hub which the cassette is attached to slid off away from the rest of the wheel. Pictures have been kindly posted by someone further down the thread.

I can slot it back into position and it will stay where it is and the wheel works fine but there is nothing holding it in place at all and it can just slide off again. I'm sure this didn't use to happen. Is this correct/normal? Seems a bit odd.


Thanks for any help!

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done - thanks!
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This really sounds like a loose cassette lockring
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That looks like your freehub came apart. So, no. Not normal.
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here y'all go.







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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
This really sounds like a loose cassette lockring
hi it's not the cassette lockring. that is still secure and the cassette is solidly attached to the hub

and thanks to who posted the pics
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Huh ! WTF !

What's the history of this bike? Just got it or have you been doing other stuff to it?
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I'm not familiar with what hubs Mavic uses and a side view of both parts would be nice. However, from what I can see you may have broken the hollow hub body fixing bolt (if one is used). I'm sure someone more familiar with the product will chime in. If that is the case and there is no further damage it is easily replaced.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Huh ! WTF !

What's the history of this bike? Just got it or have you been doing other stuff to it?
Bike is a couple of years old. I've had it from new and never messed around with the wheels previously.
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Originally Posted by mitchmellow62
I'm not familiar with what hubs Mavic uses and a side view of both parts would be nice. However, from what I can see you may have broken the hollow hub body fixing bolt (if one is used). I'm sure someone more familiar with the product will chime in. If that is the case and there is no further damage it is easily replaced.
Nothing looks damaged/broken/cracked at all. Might be able to post a side view later.
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Yeah something broke or came loose somehow. It's not normal. That's about all I can say.
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Originally Posted by adamv66
hi it's not the cassette lockring. that is still secure and the cassette is solidly attached to the hub

and thanks to who posted the pics
I don't know about Mavic specifically, but several other brands have free hubs that just slide over the axle. The fit is tight enough that they usually stay in place, but it really doesn't matter since when mounted, the dropouts hold everything in place. If that's the case here, just put everything back together and don't worry about it.


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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
This really sounds like a loose cassette lockring
No, it doesn't...at all. The cassette is still attached to the freehub.
ETA: As asgelle posted this happens on a lot of hubs these days. Many hubs (DT for one) have axle caps that are basically a snug press fit. Cassettes have gotten bigger (and heavier) and sometimes the o-ring or whatever keeps the axle cap on isn't strong enough and the freehub w/ cassette just fall off. Make sure the pawls/springs are all there and in the right spots and put the freehub back on. No big deal.

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This is an id360 hub. I have one on my road bike and have disassembled it several times.

This hub freehub body is only held together by pressure. If you pull the cassette, or the freehub body with your bare hands it comes apart. There's an adapter with a freehub dust guard for QR or Thru axle (depending on your hub) that slides over the end of the wheel axle, just after the freehub, and its friction with the wheel axle should normally keep everything together.

Shouldn't be a problem when riding as it's impossible for it to come apart when mounted on the dropouts as the adapter will prevent the freehub body from sliding anywhere. Just take care not to loose any part if it comes apart.
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Originally Posted by Amt0571
This is an id360 hub. I have one on my road bike and have disassembled it several times.

This hub freehub body is only held together by pressure. If you pull the cassette, or the freehub body with your bare hands it comes apart. There's an adapter with a freehub dust guard for QR or Thru axle (depending on your hub) that slides over the end of the wheel axle, just after the freehub, and its friction with the wheel axle should normally keep everything together.

Shouldn't be a problem when riding as it's impossible for it to come apart when mounted on the dropouts as the adapter will prevent the freehub body from sliding anywhere. Just take care not to loose any part if it comes apart.
This is the correct answer. After looking into it further and doing a bit of searching I found out that this is the correct behaviour of this hub. When it is secured in the dropouts with the thru-axle everything is held in place securely. I had just never noticed that it was possible to slide off previously. For anyone who is interested the hub is shown here: tech.mavic . com/tech-mavic/technical_manual/data/mavic_tech.php?display=product&family=1010&subfamily=1050&macronu=23905

and a video here: youtube . com/watch?v=nLObTbB37VQ

I have checked and all parts are present as expected.

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