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Old 05-15-21, 03:32 AM
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Where can I find a 'top cover' for my headset?

I want to replace the conical 'top cover' of my headset with a shorter one. I've struck out at the LBS and searching online.
The current 'top cover' is too tall and is preventing me from lowering my stem further.
The headset is a Ritchey semi-integrated 1 1/8 (AKA zero-stack). It is a stock part on a 2017 Scott Speedster 10.
I wonder if I'll run into the problem of compatibility that one faces with fork crown races, i.e. AFAIK each headset is idiosyncratic and therefore requires a part that exactly matches.

It may just not be worth the bother. In that case, what replacement headset would you recommend? Perhaps this Ritchey Comp Press Fit or this Wolf Tooth Performance ZS or something else? (Chris King is beyond what I'm willing to pay this time)

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Old 05-15-21, 06:55 AM
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The conical top covers from omni-racer may work. I have them on Cinelli superstar frames.

https://www.omniracer.com/product-pa...-carbon-spacer
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You can lower your bars further with a stem with a greater down-angle.
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Old 05-15-21, 10:33 AM
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If you have a minus 6 stem now, a -17 will lower the bars about 2cm. I use a -17 with a 30mm headset top cover to increase the chances of future resale. I could have kept the stock 15mm cover with no spacers and a -6 stem, but then there's no adjustment left. Adding spacer on top of the stem doesn't appeal to me.
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It might just be a conical spacer. My bike had a cap underneath it so I just took the conical one off to get the stem lower. Hasnít been a problem for over 10 years.
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Cane Creek do separates, something like a Cane Creek zs44/28.6/h15 if you can find one, you would need to replace the whole of the top assembly, your bottom one can be left undisturbed.
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Sounds like another call for some 3D Printer skills...
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
It might just be a conical spacer. My bike had a cap underneath it so I just took the conical one off to get the stem lower. Hasnít been a problem for over 10 years.
I'd say this is pretty likely. Have a look under it.
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DaveSSS, the omniracer integrated conical headset spacer has a bottom outside diameter of 46.0mm. My spacer's is around 50mm but it might have been an acceptable solution. Unfortunately the international shipping is prohibitive.
dsbrantjr, I prefer the aesthetic achieved with the stem I'm using now.
urbanknight and Kimmo, there is no cap underneath, so I cannot just remove the conical spacer.
jimc101, if I can't get a shorter spacer that fits, I may go down the avenue of a completely new top assembly.
zandoval, I assume it would cost a lot more than a pre-fabricated part.

FSA sell a top cover called the Orbit CE. I will probably try the 8mm high version.


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Your top cover is different than the more common type I have. It has some rubber seals to keep water out. The stem angle change is still the better approach, since steering tubes cut extremely short make for a difficult resale and adding spacers above the stem looks dorky. Stems with a -17 to -21 degrees are common on pro bikes. Fizik makes the Cyrano model.

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Have you contacted Ritchey or Scott? Either one may have a thinner cone available but not shown on their websites or they may know of an alternative that will work.
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I'm confused as to how they call it a "zero stack" headset if the cap it comes with is stacked like 20-30mm?
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
I'm confused as to how they call it a "zero stack" headset if the cap it comes with is stacked like 20-30mm?
no different than saying "3 for $10" or "2 for $10 & the 3rd one is FREE!" Marketing.
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no different than saying "3 for $10" or "2 for $10 & the 3rd one is FREE!" Marketing.
Oh donít get me started on things like my grocery store saying ď10 for $20Ē when you can buy 1 or 2 and still only be charged $2 each.

Or the clothing stores that say ď50% off... regularly $60Ē. I have never seen that pair of pants for more than $30 since I first started buying them a decade ago.

Now you got me started. Iím going back into that runners/pedestrians thread to argue some more.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
Oh donít get me started on things like my grocery store saying ď10 for $20Ē when you can buy 1 or 2 and still only be charged $2 each.

Or the clothing stores that say ď50% off... regularly $60Ē. I have never seen that pair of pants for more than $30 since I first started buying them a decade ago.

Now you got me started. Iím going back into that runners/pedestrians thread to argue some more.
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Originally Posted by jimc101 View Post
Cane Creek do separates, something like a Cane Creek zs44/28.6/h15 if you can find one, you would need to replace the whole of the top assembly, your bottom one can be left undisturbed.
Cobb Cycling also has 5mm top caps. https://speedandcomfort.com/collections/top-caps
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Crankycrank, I contacted both Scott and Ritchey. Scott said: "we do not sell shorter conical spacers", and Ritchey said: "we don’t offer the HS top cap only, you should replace the whole headset upper part".
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Crankycrank, I contacted both Scott and Ritchey. Scott said: "we do not sell shorter conical spacers", and Ritchey said: "we donít offer the HS top cap only, you should replace the whole headset upper part".
Well that's too bad. Maybe you could sell the old headset with the big spacer. May have some takers looking for that and used parts prices are at a premium now.
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It'd be a pretty simple machining job to have one made from scratch in ally. Three cuts, plus a groove for an o ring inside.

But if you ring around a few bike shops, you may well find one that has a collection of them. Or try a co-op, links in my tag.
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Even simpler than Kimmo suggestion, just cut off the amount you want to lower your stem from the original conical spacer. That spacer looks solid so it shouldn't be an issue. The only trick will be getting it flat on top assuming that you make the cut by hand. Anyone with a mill/lathe could do this in minutes. By hand with a saw you'll want to take your time and finish with a sharp file to clean up the cut and level it off. Worst thing that could happen is you wind up going 1-2mm lower than intended. Well, you could ruin the whole spacer, too, but let's assume some level of competence with hand tools!
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