Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Good spoke source?

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Good spoke source?

Old 06-02-21, 06:37 PM
  #1  
VicBC_Biker
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 110 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 51 Posts
Good spoke source?

I'm planning my first wheel build, and looking around for a good place for my spoke and nipple order.
Prices seem to be extremely varied, even without considering shipping which can be expensive since I'm in Canada.

Double-butted spokes, Sapim Race or equivalent (DT are more expensive)
Prices in CAD
ModernBike USA- only sells boxes of 100, forget that..
Harris Cyclery -USA- DT Swiss only (Competition double butted) $1.67 CAD
Bike 24 (Germany) Sapim Race 0.93 CAD
Wheelbuilding Parts (USA) Sapim Race 0.78 CAD
Spokeservice (Canada) Sapim Race 1.75 CAD

Suggestions for other places to check would be appreciated!

Thanks.
VicBC_Biker is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 07:19 PM
  #2  
rccardr 
aka: Dr. Cannondale
 
rccardr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6,533

Bikes: Lots. Just...lots.

Mentioned: 184 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1553 Post(s)
Liked 999 Times in 466 Posts
Sunny Spokes in Virginia, great service and prices, they have Sapim.
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
rccardr is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 07:33 PM
  #3  
Rick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 815
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 189 Times in 125 Posts
I purchase my Spokes from Thor USA $0.70 for Sapim Race silver spokes.

Last edited by Rick; 06-02-21 at 07:37 PM.
Rick is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 08:27 PM
  #4  
Broctoon
Super-duper Genius
 
Broctoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Muskrat Springs, Utah
Posts: 980
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 425 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times in 138 Posts
Wow, youíre right, VicBC_Biker .

I like Retrogression in Portland, Oregon. I just went to their checkout page for a spoke order Iím about to place. Instead of my US address, I put in a postal code for Victoria, BC to see what it says. For 32 spokes and nipples, merchandise cost is 42 bucks, but shipping is another 40 USD.

You better find a supplier somewhere in the great white north!
Broctoon is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 08:47 PM
  #5  
Dan Burkhart 
Senior member
 
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 7,729
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 754 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 183 Posts
Originally Posted by VicBC_Biker View Post
I'm planning my first wheel build, and looking around for a good place for my spoke and nipple order.
Prices seem to be extremely varied, even without considering shipping which can be expensive since I'm in Canada.

Double-butted spokes, Sapim Race or equivalent (DT are more expensive)
Prices in CAD
ModernBike USA- only sells boxes of 100, forget that..
Harris Cyclery -USA- DT Swiss only (Competition double butted) $1.67 CAD
Bike 24 (Germany) Sapim Race 0.93 CAD
Wheelbuilding Parts (USA) Sapim Race 0.78 CAD
Spokeservice (Canada) Sapim Race 1.75 CAD

Suggestions for other places to check would be appreciated!

Thanks.
I might be able to help you out. I have tons of DT Swiss Competition (2.0/1.8/2.0 silver) in lengths up to 284 mm and can custom cut to your required length. For longer lengths, I have some Sapim Race spokes, but supply is limited.
Also have some 1.8/1.6/1.8. All spokes ship with 12mm brass nipples. $1.20 Canadian plus postage.

Last edited by Dan Burkhart; 06-02-21 at 08:50 PM.
Dan Burkhart is offline  
Likes For Dan Burkhart:
Old 06-02-21, 08:49 PM
  #6  
VicBC_Biker
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 110 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 51 Posts
Originally Posted by Broctoon View Post
Wow, you’re right, VicBC_Biker .

I like Retrogression in Portland, Oregon. I just went to their checkout page for a spoke order I’m about to place. Instead of my US address, I put in a postal code for Victoria, BC to see what it says. For 32 spokes and nipples, merchandise cost is 42 bucks, but shipping is another 40 USD.

You better find a supplier somewhere in the great white north!
Correct!
But I don't want to pay 3 times the fair price from a Canadian seller just to save on shipping. Nuts to that.

The default for most US shippers is to put it in a $40 or $50 Flat Rate box. Even worse (if not warned explicitly not to do so) is shipping UPS or FedEx Ground which triggers a 'handling and brokerage fee' of $50 or 15% of the shipment value, whichever is greater.

Y'all are spoiled with the cheap shipping in the US.
Even within Canada, shipping can be expensive. Sometimes it's cheaper to get stuff (especially books) from the UK than from Canada.
Ridiculous, but I guess it's subsidies at work. Don't even get me started on China postal subsidies....
One good place is Bicicletta in Vancouver BC- $5 flat rate shipping on a lot of stuff.

Last edited by VicBC_Biker; 06-03-21 at 12:08 AM.
VicBC_Biker is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 08:49 PM
  #7  
VicBC_Biker
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 110 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 51 Posts
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
I might be able to help you out. I have tons of DT Swiss Competition (2.0/1.8/2.0 silver) in lengths up to 284 mm and can custom cut to your required length. For longer lengths, I have some Sapim Race spokes, but supply is limited.
Also have some 1.8/1.6/1.8. All spokes ship with 12mm brass nipples.
I will be in touch.
Thanks!
VicBC_Biker is offline  
Old 06-02-21, 08:55 PM
  #8  
Retro Grouch 
Senior Member
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,188

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1558 Post(s)
Liked 557 Times in 325 Posts
Dan Burkhart would be my first choice for any other wheelbuilding advice you find yourself needing too.
__________________
My greatest fear is all of my kids standing around my coffin and talking about "how sensible" dad was.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Likes For Retro Grouch:
Old 06-02-21, 09:12 PM
  #9  
Symox
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 384

Bikes: '07 Specialized Roubaix Comp Triple, '12 Gravity Fixie, '21 Liv Rove 4, '06? Giant EB Spirit

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 189 Post(s)
Liked 109 Times in 65 Posts
bike hub store. Excellent customer service

https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/300.htm
Symox is offline  
Likes For Symox:
Old 06-02-21, 09:19 PM
  #10  
Russ Roth
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: South Shore of Long Island
Posts: 1,765

Bikes: 2010 Carrera Volans, 2015 C-Dale Trail 2sl, 2017 Raleigh Rush Hour, 2017 Blue Proseccio, 1992 Giant Perigee, 80s Gitane Rallye Tandem

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 641 Post(s)
Liked 498 Times in 378 Posts
Don't know about shipping to Canada but with Bike24 I toss in ancillaries to make up for the 20.00 (US) shipping. Around me, tubes are 8-12 and 20 for latex. I can toss in 2 latex tubes for race day, add in 4-6 tubes in sizes I know I'll need in the next year for 2.50-3.50 each and I've saved money on shipping. Not to mention the joy of reaching into the cabinet for the tube I need rather then getting in the car to drive for the tube I need.
Russ Roth is offline  
Likes For Russ Roth:
Old 06-02-21, 09:28 PM
  #11  
HillRider
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 32,903

Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1686 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 564 Times in 417 Posts
Wiggle in the UK shows DT Swiss spokes at very attractive prices when quoted in $US for US delivery. It might be worth your time to see what they offer in $CD for Canadian delivery. I've had excellent service from them.
HillRider is offline  
Likes For HillRider:
Old 06-02-21, 09:46 PM
  #12  
cyccommute 
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 24,273

Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, an orange one and a few titanium ones

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4272 Post(s)
Liked 1,787 Times in 1,085 Posts
I just bought spokes for a wheel set from Rose Bikes. I paid $25 US for the spokes and $17 for shipping. Even with the shipping, that’s about 30Ę each. I use DT Alpine III which are more expensive here (about $2 each).

Although not Sapim or DT, BDop Cycling sells Pillar spokes which are also worth a look.
__________________
Stuart Black
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Days of Wineless Roads. Bed and Breakfasting along the KATY
Twisting Down the Alley. Misadventures in tornado alley.
cyccommute is offline  
Likes For cyccommute:
Old 06-03-21, 06:19 AM
  #13  
Dan Burkhart 
Senior member
 
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 7,729
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 754 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 183 Posts
Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
I just bought spokes for a wheel set from Rose Bikes. I paid $25 US for the spokes and $17 for shipping. Even with the shipping, thatís about 30Ę each. I use DT Alpine III which are more expensive here (about $2 each).

Although not Sapim or DT, BDop Cycling sells Pillar spokes which are also worth a look.
That's really good pricing in your link.
Question about the Alpine spokes. I've never used them, but I use lots of Competitions and they have enough 2.0 shaft that they can usually be shortened by up to 25 to 30 mm, so in that regard, they are almost as good as blanks. Sapim Race, on the other hand usually only afford about 8mm for shortening.
Can you tell me if the Alpines are the same, because if they are, I might just order a bunch from your source.
Dan Burkhart is offline  
Likes For Dan Burkhart:
Old 06-03-21, 09:40 AM
  #14  
VicBC_Biker
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 219
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 110 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 51 Posts
Hopefully this list will be useful to others in the future.
I really appreciate all the responses and info on sources, and ideas on reducing (or rationalizing) the shipping costs.
Thanks!
VicBC_Biker is offline  
Old 06-03-21, 11:15 AM
  #15  
cyccommute 
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 24,273

Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, an orange one and a few titanium ones

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4272 Post(s)
Liked 1,787 Times in 1,085 Posts
Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
That's really good pricing in your link.
Question about the Alpine spokes. I've never used them, but I use lots of Competitions and they have enough 2.0 shaft that they can usually be shortened by up to 25 to 30 mm, so in that regard, they are almost as good as blanks. Sapim Race, on the other hand usually only afford about 8mm for shortening.
Can you tell me if the Alpines are the same, because if they are, I might just order a bunch from your source.
The 2.0 mm shaft isnít real long. Iíve shortened some spokes because I had tons of them that were too long but it only looks like thereís about 10mm of extra shaft to work with. The transition isnít nearly as abrupt as what Iíve seen on other DT either. Thereís a sharp delineation at the top of the spoke but itís very subtle at the threads.
__________________
Stuart Black
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Days of Wineless Roads. Bed and Breakfasting along the KATY
Twisting Down the Alley. Misadventures in tornado alley.
cyccommute is offline  
Old 06-03-21, 12:45 PM
  #16  
Dan Burkhart 
Senior member
 
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 7,729
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 754 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times in 183 Posts
Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
The 2.0 mm shaft isnít real long. Iíve shortened some spokes because I had tons of them that were too long but it only looks like thereís about 10mm of extra shaft to work with. The transition isnít nearly as abrupt as what Iíve seen on other DT either. Thereís a sharp delineation at the top of the spoke but itís very subtle at the threads.
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. The transition on the butting, or swaging if you prefer, seems to vary even on the same brand spokes. I have older Competitions with a very pronounce transition, and the newer ones are much more subtle.
Dan Burkhart is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.