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Originally Posted by Moisture
(Post 22543408)
Hey cabbage man, any updates?
Torching also worked on some XT pads that after sitting for a winter had no bite… Cleaning and sanding alone did not help. |
Originally Posted by Moisture
(Post 22492371)
After pulling out the pads on all three of my bikes, and scrubbing them down with a metal brush, I find that the braking performance is now stronger and smoother.
Maybe because I regularly go up mountains with long and steep gradients, I probably use the brakes hard and long enough to make intense heat and vaporize any unwanted stuff on the brake pads and the rotors. :) |
IPA on the rims about weekly. In the rare case that pads are glazed, sandpaper.
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I think the reason you find sanding helps or is needed is that you’ve got contaminated pads. Sanding is often just a temporary solution, as the contamination makes its way back to the surface.
Brake dust should have no negative effects on braking, and unless you have comtaminated the pads and feel a decrease in braking, there is no reason the clean/sand them, which is why no manufacturer recomends doing it as a part of regular maintenance. |
Originally Posted by Kapusta
(Post 22543521)
I think the reason you find sanding helps or is needed is that you’ve got contaminated pads. Sanding is often just a temporary solution, as the contamination makes its way back to the surface.
Brake dust should have no negative effects on braking, and unless you have comtaminated the pads and feel a decrease in braking, there is no reason the clean/sand them, which is why no manufacturer recomends doing it as a part of regular maintenance. |
I'll clean the rotors occasionally with automotive wheel cleaner that is suitable for painted wheels. I've never cleaned the pads and haven't felt the need to..
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So assuming that the rotors are clean, this should help ensure that the majority of potential contamination doesn't make it's way to the pads?
Since sanding works really well , temporarily, how can I prevent contamination, period? |
Originally Posted by Moisture
(Post 22543958)
how can I prevent contamination, period?
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Originally Posted by Moisture
(Post 22543958)
So assuming that the rotors are clean, this should help ensure that the majority of potential contamination doesn't make it's way to the pads?
Since sanding works really well , temporarily, how can I prevent contamination, period? |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 22492503)
It not obvious to me.
For cars, trucks and even bicycles, most of the stuff I've read suggests firm braking is better for brake pad and rotor life. .... |
Originally Posted by easyupbug
(Post 22544693)
I have no opinion on bikes but for cars and trucks this is backward. For years I was responsible for a maintenance department with a fleet of 251 mobile vehicles from cars to 350 ton haul trucks traveling up and down open pit mine haul roads and spent a lot of time studying this issue and the literature is clear.
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Firm braking (at least for cars and trucks...) Assuming you're not locking up the brakes or braking too hard, helps recondition the pads/rotors and promote even wear, assuming that everything is mounted properly. Assuming we all have the same idea regarding "firm" , what he was saying makes sense. It's actually important to occasionally do some firm "bedding" type stops here and there when the brakes are often subjected to uneven use patterns with Insufficient heat build up, using them lightly, or too hard, whenever they ARE in use.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 22544796)
The literature might be clear, but your answer here is not.
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Rim brakes - I regularly hose my bikes off with a light spray but blast the brake shoe from both directions to both clean out the ugly black dust and remove any grit.
Right now I have a little tubular glue on my rear rim and a shudder when braking. Persistent stuff! I've done two cleansings so far with Simple Green, paint remover and dish soap. Better each time but still there. |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 22492503)
It not obvious to me.
For cars, trucks and even bicycles, most of the stuff I've read suggests firm braking is better for brake pad and rotor life. Dragging ones brakes is ineffective for stopping and just creates unnecessary heat which is bad for every thing. Now if you are talking about hard stops where the bike or any other vehicle is going so fast that the braking can't be accomplished before the parts get too hot, then I might agree. |
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