alcjphil

Not true
The tubeless tires on my gravel bike hold air for weeks
I know they are tubeless because I converted them myself.
Tubeless tires on my road bike take about 3 days before they need to be pumped up. but they they still hold about half the pressure that I normally ride at

bcsteeve

I really did not intend for this to become a (yet another, I gather?) debate on tubeless versus tubed.

squirtdad

I find park tool a huge help (and I have wrenched on bikes for a long time)

this should help about tubeless

https://www.parktool.com/en-us/blog/...&area%5B%5D=60

tubeless vs tubes vs tubular is as noted is always and animated discussion

quick summary

Specs on your bikes state is it tubeless, but they often come with tubes to start with...spec say it includes the tubeless conversion kit

tubeless means that you do not have to use and inner tube (but you can)
Tubeless tires are designed with beefier sidewalls
Rim need to be air tight, that be be done by putting sealing the spoke holes with special tape
tire rim interface is often really tight and made more so by sealant helping make the interface air tight
usually a blast of air is need to seat the bead, compressor or special bike pump with resvoir
Sealant is required
fixes in the wild are 1) sealant works 2) use of a plug (bacon strips) 3) put a tube in
getttng wheels off and on is different not due to tubeless but due to disk brakes. so instead of open dropouts and a quick release you have what is called a thru axle that screws into place

that basics. sure to have missed something

alcjphil

It is true that it is a contentious subject, no question. However I felt duty bound to call out an untrue statement. Properly set up, tubeless tires of any sort hold air almost as well as a standard butyl inner tube as well as being more resistant to flat tires caused by punctures. I thought that it would be useful for you to know that

bcsteeve

For sure... I wasn't calling you out specifically.

I get that there are two camps, and there are pros and cons. From the little I've learned, I expect tubeless will be better for me.

smd4

Messy, heavier and I still need to carry a spare tube. What’s not to like?

bcsteeve

Stop! Lol. You're going to get be banned in my first week for starting a war.

I have a feeling I'm going to need this place

DiabloScott

Well you might not be able to get the tube IN there when you need it.

oldbobcat

Tubeless ready is sort of like "do wah diddy." If you have to ask where it is, you ain't meant to know.

bcsteeve

In every forum everywhere, regardless of subject matter, there's always that one, truly unhelpful post.

Thanks for helping me find it so quickly..

oldbobcat

I meant it as a joke. But take it any way you like.

bcsteeve

Me too, Bob.... me too

oldbobcat

Thanks. I can be obtuse at times and I have to watch my step.

Dan Burkhart 

I think tubeless ready is a misnomer unless the wheel comes with tape and valve installed. Calling them tubeless compatible would be more accurate.

bcsteeve

well, in my case the tape was there and the valve came in a bag and was super easy to put in.

alexk_il

So... All is good and the wheel is rideable again, right?

bcsteeve

Yep, thanks!

tyrion

Starting trouble already. The moderators are going to keep a close watch on you.