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Old 10-03-22, 01:26 PM
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Ultra Torque install Q and chainsize Q

Getting ready to refit a Record crankset into my Gunnar Roadie.

Bottom bracket is BSA and nice clean, itís steel. The Record ultra torque cups have some kind of yellow stuff painted on the threads.

1. Do I apply grease, or anti seize, or do I just run them in the way they came?

2. Iím installing a new campy chain at the same time. Current cassette is 13/26 but I may go up to 13/29 if the compact gearing up front doesnít give me a low enough gearing for the hills in my area. So with a 3t larger cog is there a way to size the chain so I wouldnít have to add a link or more if I decide I need to go to the 29t large cog? RD is Chorus 10.

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There are a number of BF threads on this. I believe it is thread locker, maybe Loctite yellow. Whether you use as is, remove it and use Locktite blue or purple, or remove it and use grease is up to you and maybe a lot of in-coming opinions.

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Edit: Added BF to not confuse with cup threads.

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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
There are a number of threads on this. I believe it is thread locker, maybe Loctite yellow. Whether you use as is, remove it and use Locktite blue or purple, or remove it and use grease is up to you and maybe a lot of in-coming opinions.

John
These are thread in at 35nm I think the stuff on the threads is campy lock compound.


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My steel and titanium frames have Record BB installed on them. Keep the Campy thread locker in place and add some light grease such as white lithium to the BB shell threads, then wrap the BB cups with three wraps of teflon thread tape. It works perfectly on my frames. Never come loose and come apart without any trouble. My nickels worth of wisdom.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
My steel and titanium frames have Record BB installed on them. Keep the Campy thread locker in place and add some light grease such as white lithium to the BB shell threads, then wrap the BB cups with three wraps of teflon thread tape. It works perfectly on my frames. Never come loose and come apart without any trouble. My nickels worth of wisdom.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
My steel and titanium frames have Record BB installed on them. Keep the Campy thread locker in place and add some light grease such as white lithium to the BB shell threads, then wrap the BB cups with three wraps of teflon thread tape. It works perfectly on my frames. Never come loose and come apart without any trouble. My nickels worth of wisdom.
I have done exactly that with Shimano square taper and HTII bottom brackets, also in both steel and Ti frames, with the same excellent results. At that point the factory thread locker is moot but I don't bother removing it.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
My steel and titanium frames have Record BB installed on them. Keep the Campy thread locker in place and add some light grease such as white lithium to the BB shell threads, then wrap the BB cups with three wraps of teflon thread tape. It works perfectly on my frames. Never come loose and come apart without any trouble. My nickels worth of wisdom.
I do this minus the pipe tape. Just grease works fine for me.
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Originally Posted by KerryIrons View Post
I do this minus the pipe tape. Just grease works fine for me.
Yeah, using both is redundant but it assures a complete seal and absolutely no squeaking. If I had to use only one I'd use the teflon tape.
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Tape and grease they went in nice and smooth.

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Took her out for a nice 20m shakedown this morning. Everything I hoped for.

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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
My steel and titanium frames have Record BB installed on them. Keep the Campy thread locker in place and add some light grease such as white lithium to the BB shell threads, then wrap the BB cups with three wraps of teflon thread tape. It works perfectly on my frames. Never come loose and come apart without any trouble. My nickels worth of wisdom.
Many thanks for those suggestions, in particular that of the Teflon tape. My Ultra Torque BB has been ticking since I installed it a couple of years ago, so I'll try pulling it apart and using the tape to see if the problem goes away.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak View Post
Many thanks for those suggestions, in particular that of the Teflon tape. My Ultra Torque BB has been ticking since I installed it a couple of years ago, so I'll try pulling it apart and using the tape to see if the problem goes away.
You might just check the the spring clip is properly seated in both holes on the drive side cup before taking things apart
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