700c/23c to bigger tire?
#1
Full Member
Thread Starter
700c/23c to bigger tire?
I would like to install bigger tire, will it fit on my rim? Ebay shows tires 700c x 25c, 28c,32c

.

.
#2
Sock Puppet
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,309
Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Synapse Carbon, 2017 Jamis Renegade Exploit and too many others to mention.
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 787 Post(s)
Liked 691 Times
in
459 Posts
https://pictures.dtswiss.com/uploads...WEB_ZZ_001.pdf
The only other limiting factor is the clearance between your chain stays. You should have at least 3mm clearance on each side so you don't rub when the frame flexes on hill climbs.
Likes For Lombard:
#3
Really Old Senior Member
Personally, with that rim, I'd go up to a 32mm tire.
I'm a tad conservative.
I'm a tad conservative.
Likes For sweeks:
#5
Clark W. Griswold
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 11,465
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3555 Post(s)
Liked 2,883 Times
in
1,929 Posts
It all depends on frame clearance. I would go with the widest tire I can fit but not knowing the bike or anything else it is a hard thing to figure.
In terms of tires I probably would go for a tire from a authorized seller and generally Continental, Schwalbe, Maxxis, Vittoria, Challenge, Specialized...They way I have a warranty and can get support if I need it and know it is a legit tire.
In terms of tires I probably would go for a tire from a authorized seller and generally Continental, Schwalbe, Maxxis, Vittoria, Challenge, Specialized...They way I have a warranty and can get support if I need it and know it is a legit tire.
Likes For veganbikes:
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South shore, L.I., NY
Posts: 6,174
Bikes: Flyxii FR322, Cannondale Topstone, Miyata City Liner, Specialized Chisel, Specialized Epic Evo
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2760 Post(s)
Liked 1,484 Times
in
863 Posts
We used to run 26x2.5" mt. bike tires on 19mm wide rims at 25psi, never rolled one off. Your limit is not the rim, its clearance, chainstays, F fork as well as what can you squeeze past the brakes. I'd try for 32mm's and if not size down to 28.
#7
Really Old Senior Member
#8
It's MY mountain
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 9,794
Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3850 Post(s)
Liked 2,337 Times
in
1,266 Posts
Personally, with that rim, I'd go up to a 32mm tire.
I'm a tad conservative.
I'm a tad conservative.
*Edit - my rims are labeled as 12mm wide so 30's should be fine on 14s.
Last edited by DiabloScott; 12-29-22 at 07:09 PM.
Likes For DiabloScott:
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 2,293
Bikes: Airborne "Carpe Diem", Motobecane "Mirage", Trek 6000, Strida 2, Dahon "Helios XL", Dahon "Mu XL", Tern "Verge S11i"
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 886 Post(s)
Liked 419 Times
in
309 Posts
Pursuant to your earlier question, no. The rims are 21mm wide at the brake tracks. Assuming a 1.5mm thick rim sidewall, that makes it a 17mm rim. So maybe not so crazy to carry a 32mm tire.
On my folding bike, I have 17mm rims wearing 40mm tires with no problems related to the performance of the tires (depending on the brand of rim).
On my folding bike, I have 17mm rims wearing 40mm tires with no problems related to the performance of the tires (depending on the brand of rim).
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 33,553
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1974 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 985 Times
in
680 Posts
#12
It's MY mountain
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 9,794
Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3850 Post(s)
Liked 2,337 Times
in
1,266 Posts
Size: 700C
- Brand: Weinmann
- Model: LP18
- ISO: 622
- Width ID: 13.6
- Width OD: 19
- Profile: 16.5
Likes For DiabloScott:
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,766
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2981 Post(s)
Liked 487 Times
in
314 Posts
Any width tire will mount on that rim. But as recently as 2014 some popular road bike brands had no seat tube or fork clearance for anything larger than 23s.
#14
Sock Puppet
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,309
Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Synapse Carbon, 2017 Jamis Renegade Exploit and too many others to mention.
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 787 Post(s)
Liked 691 Times
in
459 Posts
Pursuant to your earlier question, no. The rims are 21mm wide at the brake tracks. Assuming a 1.5mm thick rim sidewall, that makes it a 17mm rim. So maybe not so crazy to carry a 32mm tire.
On my folding bike, I have 17mm rims wearing 40mm tires with no problems related to the performance of the tires (depending on the brand of rim).
On my folding bike, I have 17mm rims wearing 40mm tires with no problems related to the performance of the tires (depending on the brand of rim).
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,164
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 103 Post(s)
Liked 103 Times
in
81 Posts
In addition to the above DT Swiss tire-rim compatibility chart, Sheldon Brown's site offers this chart, see 3/4 way down the page:
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
You'll have to interpolate between 13 and 15mm interior rim widths, but seems like 28 tires are no problem. See the note at the bottom of the chart mentioning its recommendations are conservative.
https://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
You'll have to interpolate between 13 and 15mm interior rim widths, but seems like 28 tires are no problem. See the note at the bottom of the chart mentioning its recommendations are conservative.
Last edited by MudPie; 12-30-22 at 09:19 AM.
#16
Mad bike riding scientist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 26,090
Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5412 Post(s)
Liked 3,023 Times
in
1,774 Posts
Anything up to 28mm will work. See chart in link below:
https://pictures.dtswiss.com/uploads...WEB_ZZ_001.pdf
https://pictures.dtswiss.com/uploads...WEB_ZZ_001.pdf
The only other limiting factor is the clearance between your chain stays. You should have at least 3mm clearance on each side so you don't rub when the frame flexes on hill climbs.
__________________
Stuart Black
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Days of Wineless Roads. Bed and Breakfasting along the KATY
Twisting Down the Alley. Misadventures in tornado alley.
Stuart Black
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Days of Wineless Roads. Bed and Breakfasting along the KATY
Twisting Down the Alley. Misadventures in tornado alley.
Likes For cyccommute:
#17
more daylight today!
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 12,520
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5136 Post(s)
Liked 3,619 Times
in
2,514 Posts
You'll likely rub the frame or something with the tread or sidewall of your tire before you get to a size that is considered unsafe for the rim. So put what ever you want to try on it. I have in the past had tires that were too big when inflated to get through the rim brake pads without deflating the tire. But that was long ago with cheaper rim brakes that didn't have the quick release to open them.
So just look everywhere on your bike and find the closest points the tires comes to on it. Measure it, multiply by 2 and that's about how much bigger you can go. But I'd suggest not multiplying it so you leave half that distance open as a safety margin for sticks and mud that might get trapped or on your tires.
And the tire diameter grows also as you increase width by roughly the same amount. So watch your seat tube, fork crown and other places tread can touch.
Additionally, tire widths are just nominal and vary from one model of tire to the next. So 28 mm tire of one model might not be quite the same width on your rim as 28 mm of another model.
So just look everywhere on your bike and find the closest points the tires comes to on it. Measure it, multiply by 2 and that's about how much bigger you can go. But I'd suggest not multiplying it so you leave half that distance open as a safety margin for sticks and mud that might get trapped or on your tires.
And the tire diameter grows also as you increase width by roughly the same amount. So watch your seat tube, fork crown and other places tread can touch.
Additionally, tire widths are just nominal and vary from one model of tire to the next. So 28 mm tire of one model might not be quite the same width on your rim as 28 mm of another model.
Last edited by Iride01; 12-30-22 at 11:22 AM.
Likes For Iride01:
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 2,293
Bikes: Airborne "Carpe Diem", Motobecane "Mirage", Trek 6000, Strida 2, Dahon "Helios XL", Dahon "Mu XL", Tern "Verge S11i"
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 886 Post(s)
Liked 419 Times
in
309 Posts
This prompted me to measure my mountain bike rims. With tires mounted, they're 23mm at the brake tracks, so probably a 20mm rim internal width. Tires are 53mm by caliper, so my tire/rim disparity isn't as "extreme" as yours, but like you I have never had any untoward tire behavior. (FTR, this bike and its rider finished the Ore-to-Shore mountain bike race in 2001.)