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univega.duder 04-15-23 01:57 PM

Removal suggestions for mangled barrel adjuster?
 
I managed to fully mangle the barrel adjuster on my brake lever :-/ I was trying to loosen it and I not so smartly used a pair of pliers with excessive force promptly sheared off the adjuster. Oops!

Does anyone have suggesting for how I might get the remaining piece out in order to replace it? Or alternatively suggestions for affordable replacement levers? The metal seems strangely soft and my attempts with pliers seem only to further mangle. I'd be grateful for any tips. Thank you!

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FBinNY 04-15-23 02:18 PM

The reason that had you resort to pliers nay make removal now impossible.

I'd start by removing from the bike and scrubbing with water, dish detergent and a toothbrush, especially at the slot.

Then dry in a toaster oven at 180 or so g or an hour or so. Finally use penetrating oil.

Try to gently turn it with a Torx key tapped in so it cuts the shape and can drive it. There's a good chance that you'll need to drill it out, then re-tap to clean out the thread.

Overall, if cleaning and penetrating oil doesn't work, the alternatives may be costly enough to suggest shopping for new levers.

maddog34 04-15-23 02:52 PM

it looks like the threads in the Lever are also somewhat mangled... any attempt to drill the remainder of the adjuster out will not go well since the adjuster is slotted and the drill will not remain centered... there's a small chance that a REVERSE drill bit will grab the adjuster and UNSCREW IT.. i love it when that works... it rarely works.

ity looks like a small diameter adjuster... the thread size is usually 7x1mm, if i recall... Tap Drill Size is 15/64.. i'd not try the Max TDS and go with a 7/32" drill, or even a 3/16" drill bit if you choose to attempt the nearly impossible and drill a centered hole through a slotted aluminum part.... If you get lucky and maintain center, then work up to the maximum TDS. Using a Drill Press after removing the Lever assy from the bike is highly recommended.

Pick all the debris out of the slot, use some penetrating oil, then try using a small flat blade screwdriver to remove it.. The problem is that this will also force the thing to spread some and the threads will stick even more. How mangled is the back side?

I'd advise that you hit up your local Co-op for a decent replacement lever.

sweeks 04-15-23 03:52 PM

I'd look into penetrating oil and an EZ-Out. There's already a nice hole in the piece that needs to unscrew.

smd4 04-15-23 04:17 PM

+1 for the EZ-out.

veganbikes 04-15-23 04:49 PM

Honestly I think you might just be better off getting some new levers, the hassle of trying to remove that and then clean it up and find new parts will cost way more time and energy and potentially money then it is worth.

Shadco 04-15-23 04:53 PM

Looks like it took a tumble, may have crushed the lever down onto the adjuster. Replace.

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bboy314 04-15-23 04:56 PM

Douse with oil, try to wedge a small flathead screwdriver in the remaining adjuster bit, and pry open the lever body a bit with a larger screwdriver while turning the adjuster bit out.

Schweinhund 04-15-23 05:24 PM

Any chance you can get at the back (undamaged) side with a small slotted screwdrver?

Make yourself a point on your small slotted screwdriver
Open your lever as shown
GENTLY find the cable slot on the back side of the adjuster and turn out.
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Mad Honk 04-15-23 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by bboy314 (Post 22860729)
Douse with oil, try to wedge a small flathead screwdriver in the remaining adjuster bit, and pry open the lever body a bit with a larger screwdriver while turning the adjuster bit out.

This! pry the lever body open a bit and then turn the adjuster out ward from the inside of the lever. It is easier that way and does less damage. A wire brush bit will clean the threaded part of the lever and all you will need to do is find a new adjuster at your co-op. Smiles, MH

CliffordK 04-15-23 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by bboy314 (Post 22860729)
Douse with oil, try to wedge a small flathead screwdriver in the remaining adjuster bit, and pry open the lever body a bit with a larger screwdriver while turning the adjuster bit out.

That's what I'd do.

Easy out in the adjuster. It should already have a hole. And gently pry the slot open. Not enough to permanently deform it, but just enough to relieve some of the pressure on the threads. Try not to damage the threads in the process.

A little penetrating oil wouldn't hurt.

Kontact 04-15-23 05:34 PM

If jamming something into it like the tang of a small file doesn't get it to turn, use the cable slot to cut all the way through it from the side with a loose hacksaw blade. Take is easy on the far side, but you will cut a little bit into the threads. That won't matter. Give the part sticking out a little squeeze and try the screwdriver to turn it out.

Loosey lefty.

If you can't get it out in 20 minutes, spend $20 on some used levers.

CliffordK 04-15-23 05:57 PM

It may be that you'll get better access to the inside of the brake lever if you remove it from the bars. Or push it forward to the curved part of the bars.

Gresp15C 04-15-23 08:35 PM

+1 for gaining access from the inside if possible and screwing it outward. Can you temporarily remove the lever?

dsbrantjr 04-16-23 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Gresp15C (Post 22860872)
+1 for gaining access from the inside if possible and screwing it outward. Can you temporarily remove the lever?

+1 If you decide to drill it out, drilling from the lever side will work with a regular right-hand drill bit. Start with a smallish bit and gradually go bigger; it will likely unscrew by itself as you progress.
If, as suggested, the hole ID has been crushed undersize in a spill, you may need to rethread it to get a new adjuster to thread in.

univega.duder 04-17-23 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by maddog34 (Post 22860610)
it looks like the threads in the Lever are also somewhat mangled... any attempt to drill the remainder of the adjuster out will not go well since the adjuster is slotted and the drill will not remain centered... there's a small chance that a REVERSE drill bit will grab the adjuster and UNSCREW IT.. i love it when that works... it rarely works.

Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.

Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!


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maddog34 04-17-23 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by univega.duder (Post 22863146)
Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.

Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!


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sorry the lever got shredded... you might want to take the lever with you so that the shop folks can match up the pull ratio AND see the carnage... most mechanics love to see carnage.:rolleyes: And i REALLY hope you can get those cork grips off without damaging them....... maybe it's time for new ones anyway, eh? Hand Grips 101, Module 3, Removal. "if they're glued, they're screwed"

Tip: If removing rubbery grips, slip an old dull long blade screwdriver in from the brake side(move the brake perch inward to make room)..... then squirt a bit of CRC Lectra-motive in.. Quickly Remove the Screwdriver and twist the grip loose... To re-install, Clean the bar with a bit of CRC Lectra-motive and a paper towel to remove any oils and gunk.. squirt a bit into the grip, roll it around to distribute, then slide the grip on.. let set for an hour or so. Always Wear Safety Glasses/Goggles when using nasty chemicals. Too much CRC Lectra on the outside of the grip will dissolve some of the rubbery stuff and leave a mess... I towel it off quickly if it gets on the outside.

Schweinhund 04-18-23 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by univega.duder (Post 22863146)
Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.

Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!


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Bummer!
If the co-op doesn't pan out, I'm sure that if you post in the ISO thread someone will pop up with a pair of something.

wheelreason 04-18-23 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by univega.duder (Post 22863146)
Ha - this made me laugh. "Rarely works" has also been my experience with reverse drill bits but I decide to try anyway. I used some penetrating oil along with the ez-out. I also pried the cable slot with a flat head screwdriver as some had suggested. I futzed for about 20 minute before mangling the whole thing to oblivion. I will now be hunting for replacement brake levers. Hopefully I can find something at the co-op.

Thank you all for the many thoughtful and creative suggestions. I really appreciate the bike-forum members sharing of experience and expertise. Hoping it some of it will rub off on me!


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