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[Magura HS11] Lever fits both sides? Longer hose?

Old 07-29-23, 08:50 AM
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[SOLVED] [Magura HS11] Lever fits both sides? Longer hose?

Hello,

I got a free, second-hand Magura HS11 front rim brake that I'd like to install as a rear brake.

Can the lever be installed on either side?

Besides a new, longer brake hose, hydraulic brake fluid, and a bleeding kit, what tools do I need?

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Originally Posted by Winfried
Hello,

I got a free, second-hand Magura HS11 front rim brake that I'd like to install as a rear brake.

Can the lever be installed on either side?

Besides a new, longer brake hose, hydraulic brake fluid, and a bleeding kit, what tools do I need?

Thank you.


Just flip it over, itís the same thing. I have a set of these and had to do a little research before buying to make sure.

Youíll need a longer hose and a bleed.

They are truly amazing rim brakes. Consider getting a matching one. If not, Iíd recommend using it up front because itís going to work so much better than whatever else you have.
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Thanks. It's to replace a cheap rear v-brake on a cargo trike, so can only fit one in the back.

Besides the bleeding kit, new olives, and a new, longer hose, it looks like I can use the cable cutter I have and pull the "compression sleeve nuts" or "hose connectors" from the current hose (and "inserts", apparently).

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I put a set on a cargo bike that i converted into an e-bike. I figured I wanted better brakes since it would be carrying more weight and my kids.

For setup I was able to cut the cable and do the whole olive thing without a bleed. The instructions that came with them said I should manage without a bleed and they were correct.

For adding cable, you’ll definitely need a bleed.

A couple years ago I decided that hydro brakes were the one item I wanted to pay for adjustment. I’ve done several and I hate the job, I have to buy a new kit every time since I seem to lose parts, and I’m never satisfied with my work.
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Originally Posted by Winfried
Thanks. It's to replace a cheap rear v-brake on a cargo trike, so can only fit one in the back.

Besides the bleeding kit, new olives, and a new, longer hose, it looks like I can use the cable cutter I have and pull the "compression sleeve nuts" or "hose connectors" from the current hose (and "inserts", apparently).
Its a lot easier to simply replace the inserts since the olive is often compressed tight against the hose keeping them squeezed in there. Its why the link you posed says the job is difficult and requires melting the hose. New inserts are a couple bucks and not worth the effort and smell of melting plastic, if you cut a hose too long they are easy to cut out and reuse, did that once.
Cable cutters will do a poor job of cutting hose, hose should be cut with a sharp, thin blade like a box cutter, which also helps keep the center round for inserting a barb. You'll also need a barb insertion tool, I use this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I do find it works as a decent cutting guide, though not by design, but it makes the barbs effortless. I've installed three sets of shimano, a set of magura, a set of campy and an fsa brake set along with several repairs and had to use this tool, its paid for itself. There are tricks, but they're not worth the hassle and with brakes going ever more hydraulic, buy once cry once but smile every time you don't struggle with a barb.
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Thanks much. Looks easier than I thought.

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I have another question: After removing the old hose on the lever side with a lighter + cutter blade, I notice it has no olive and insert, just the "barbed fitting".

Is that to be expected? Are olives ("clamping rings" in Magura-speak) + inserts only used on the caliper side?

Also, I read that the barbed fitting requires a "special tool" to be pushed into the hose.

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Surprisingly, Magura says that "No barbed fitting has to be hammered into the hose, if the hose is correctly fitted, and certainly no hose should be fitted to the lever assembly. The barbed fitting that is fitted to the current HS11 brake is to be replaced with a shroud nut and olive"… while the second-hang brakes I got do have those fittings on all three ends.

Could it be it's cheaper or easier to fit?

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