Mount derailleur on horizontal dropouts?
I’m looking at buying a frame to convert to my indoor trainer bike. Browsing local offerings I found a cool old bike that fits me and looks cool with a fresh coat of powder. I like shiny things.
Is there an adapter, claw, or whatever to do this? I’ll be running 11sp rear. This looks like 70’s to me, I was wearing diapers then. It’s 126mm and it’ll stretch. It fits. I have a spare fork. It’s all I need for some video game action. Can I make this beast shift? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c87fb46cb.jpeg |
Most low end derailleurs come with claws attached fir this kind of frame. They should be good enough for trainer use.
OTOH, if you already have a derailleur, or want something nicer search "derailleur mounting claw" and you'll find exactly what you need for a few bucks. |
Originally Posted by FBinNY
(Post 23163750)
Most low end derailleurs come with claws attached fir this kind of frame. They should be good enough for trainer use.
OTOH, if you already have a derailleur, or want something nicer search "derailleur mounting claw" and you'll find exactly what you need for a few bucks. A way to do this would be to get a second claw. Cut both to make a top that extends 1/2" below the dropout and a bottom that stops just below the dropout. Clamp them together to form a single hanger that now hangs where an integral hanger would be. Drill the overlap for 2 bolts. Not simple. The inside would need to be clean, so perhaps countersunk for the bolt heads. The attachment has to be rock solid. Failure here will be very expensive. Locktite red + lock washers. |
Here is Shimano's frame spec recommendation for SIS. Note that the angle measurements is from axle to BB line. Also note the position of the axle in front of the RD mount position.
This is older info so pre-11 speed. Don't know if it matters. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ba56a744b1.jpg |
Is this doo-hickey a "claw?" Never heard it called that. You need one of these, anyway.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f48525e133.jpg |
Originally Posted by roadcrankr
(Post 23163795)
Is this doo-hickey a "claw?" Never heard it called that. You need one of these, anyway.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f48525e133.jpg And many have the built in offset (like the one pictured) so the RD is in the same place it would be with a built in hanger. The OP has plenty of options, and if this is to be only used on a trainer, he doesn't need to spend much. |
Which trainer do you have? If on the offchance it’s a kickr core (but not for some reason right now the full fat kickr), you can use Zwift’s virtual shifting on that now and don’t need a derailleur.
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I presume you don't have thru axles? That would complicate it. I ran bikes with 'claws' like that for years; can't see any reason it wouldn't work with 11-speed.
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Cool, it’s possible.
Now I’m having the dilemma of “why”. I have a perfectly suited road bike that almost never gets used due to the gravel and MTB nature of most of the rides here. It just seems a little too nice for trainer duty. |
I can mail you a claw, like the one pictured in my comment.
Only it lacks the fixing bolt & nut. It would work fine, as long as you clamp in the wheel. Feel to PM me with your address. |
Originally Posted by rosefarts
(Post 23164158)
Cool, it’s possible.
Now I’m having the dilemma of “why”. I have a perfectly suited road bike that almost never gets used due to the gravel and MTB nature of most of the rides here. It just seems a little too nice for trainer duty. John |
You may run into issue with the hanger nut to the cassette lock ring when using the claw with modern equipment
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
(Post 23163795)
Is this doo-hickey a "claw?" Never heard it called that.
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Originally Posted by grumpus
(Post 23166925)
It used to be just a derailleur hanger, but then aluminium frames and a hundred different sorts of derailleur hanger emerged, and it was helpful to differentiate this from those.
So. "Claw" is basically a retronym coming into play when the part is sold without the POS derailleur attached. |
Originally Posted by roadcrankr
(Post 23163795)
Is this doo-hickey a "claw?" Never heard it called that. You need one of these, anyway.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f48525e133.jpg |
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