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11 speed brifter extinction?
A friend has a very similar bike-11 speed -and told me the our LBS can't even find replacement brifters for her. Electronic preferred, but mech will do. I had my Ultegra 6800 replaced once and experience tells me that these will crap out in a few years too.
True? Should I find some and stock pile for a rainy day? I have no problem with my mech 11 speed and would buy elect on my next bike. |
Stuff is available but cost has doubled in the past year. I used Cento 11 on the Cannondale Synapse I rebuilt with R7000 105 and it's a great option.
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Originally Posted by bblair
(Post 23726612)
A friend has a very similar bike-11 speed -and told me the our LBS can't even find replacement brifters for her. Electronic preferred, but mech will do. I had my Ultegra 6800 replaced once and experience tells me that these will crap out in a few years too.
True? Should I find some and stock pile for a rainy day? I have no problem with my mech 11 speed and would buy elect on my next bike. |
Originally Posted by Trav1s
(Post 23726618)
Stuff is available but cost has doubled in the past year. I used Cento 11 on the Cannondale Synapse I rebuilt with R7000 105 and it's a great option.
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Originally Posted by bblair
(Post 23726612)
I had my Ultegra 6800 replaced once and experience tells me that these will crap out in a few years too.
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Originally Posted by bblair
(Post 23726612)
A friend has a very similar bike-11 speed -and told me the our LBS can't even find replacement brifters for her. Electronic preferred, but mech will do. I had my Ultegra 6800 replaced once and experience tells me that these will crap out in a few years too.
True? Should I find some and stock pile for a rainy day? I have no problem with my mech 11 speed and would buy elect on my next bike. Or are we talking mechanical? If so, the WD-40 flush cures 90% of the problems that come through our shop. Followed by a lithium grease spray chaser, good as new. Replacement STI 11-speed shifters? My local Trek dealers have been clearing out 11-speed stuff in their bargain bin. Out with the old and in with the new! I got a pair of 105 11-speed shifters for an excellent price. Otherwise, Fleabay, where at any one time you should be able to find dozens or hundreds of options. This is where shop mechanics money sell 'broken' customer shifters that have been 'restored' as per paragraph #2 above. Beer money! |
I wouldn't be so worried that I'd stock an extra set. Wouldn't it be worse if it's just sitting on your shelf and never needed?
Besides, it might be a excuse to get a new bike if the STI goes bad! <grin> |
Originally Posted by Crankycrank
(Post 23726655)
Are you sure the shifters were broken or possibly just needed a flush and lube. There are a fair number of posters here unaware of this being a common issue.
Fresh housing (and cable while you're at it) properly prepared and installed makes a huge difference. Replace housing BEFORE friction grows to the point where you're stressing the shifter. This, plus occasional shifter lubrication, can extend shifter life by a very long time. I have 33 year old STI that's still functioning perfectly fine. |
Originally Posted by Crankycrank
(Post 23726655)
Are you sure the shifters were broken or possibly just needed a flush and lube. There are a fair number of posters here unaware of this being a common issue.
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Originally Posted by RCMoeur
(Post 23726825)
Just had a rider in my group this morning complaining her brifters weren't working well again. She took them to a shop where they charged her for a flush, and as I unfortunately predicted they worked for a while, but then the old grease re-solidified. I offered to degunk them in the ultrasonic, but she doesn't want to unwrap the bars and pull the brifters.
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I reached the plateau with 11sp DA, and bought new spares years ago.
The mechanical right brifter will poop out before the left. My experience calls for 50k miles lifespan. Other prudent spares include a RD, pulleys, rings, and cassettes. Shimano historically updates components like pedals, bottom brackets, calipers, etc to reduce the necessity of spares. |
Originally Posted by RCMoeur
(Post 23726825)
Just had a rider in my group this morning complaining her brifters weren't working well again. She took them to a shop where they charged her for a flush, and as I unfortunately predicted they worked for a while, but then the old grease re-solidified. I offered to degunk them in the ultrasonic, but she doesn't want to unwrap the bars and pull the brifters.
Shifters work like butter now. The entire project revealed such an incredible "diamond in the rough" find for me. |
When mine stopped, I took it to the LBS, who I trust and was there while he was on the phone with the Shimano rep. So while a flush and lube might have worked, these two guys seemed to know what they were doing. Mechanical, BTW. I was told that it was a worn cam or gear or something like that.
Assuming the gunk hypothesis, what is the preventive maintenance for this? A WD-40 flush? |
There are two ways to approach this: (1) keeping the old grease soft, or (2) getting rid of the old grease entirely. The first method doesn't require disassembly of the bars / brifters but does require periodic reapplications. The second involves disassembly & long ultrasonic cleaner cycles but if done correctly is a permanent fix.
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My 11 speed 105 mechanical left (front mech) shifter broke at the end of last year. Some of the internals grenaded (probably due to a cable routing issue in the frame, I had to use extra force to shift the front mech).
The shop had no problems finding a replacement, but it wasn't as cheap as I expected. I think it was $120+/-. Gummed up shifters - I bought an older bike with Ultegra 9 speed setup. It had sat for a spell and wouldn't shift. I shot WD40 inside and worked the shifters thru the gears a bunch, let it dry, then hit it with some Tri Flow. Had to do that exercise twice... but they've been good now for the past 2 years. |
To clarify, I just squeeze the brake lever and flood the inside withWD-40? Relube with something else, or just do that periodically?
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Originally Posted by bblair
(Post 23727823)
To clarify, I just squeeze the brake lever and flood the inside withWD-40? Relube with something else, or just do that periodically?
Then lube with Tri Flow. Worked for me. |
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