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Old 10-06-05, 02:57 PM
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Add rear suspension to a hardtail

Hi guys ! I would like to add a rear suspension to by GT and make it a softail. Any ideas how to do that ?
Thanks. Bernhard
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Old 10-06-05, 03:01 PM
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Buy a new frame.

Honestly, even if it was feasable to do, it would cost more than buying a new frame.
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Old 10-06-05, 03:03 PM
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Sounds impossible, but I'm a no0b. Does Pantour make a suspension hub for rear wheels? Check them out if nothing else comes up.
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step 1 cut off seat and chain stays
step 2 realize that this is going to be realy hard
step 3 buy a frame with suspension and lament over the lost frame
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Old 10-06-05, 03:40 PM
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buying a suspension seat post is probably the closest you'll get.
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There is a device that attaches to your rear drop outs, but I don't think it's a good idea. It adds a bunch of weight too. A new full suspension frame shouldn't cost you much. However, if you like your GT, you might reconsider going full suspension at all. Why do you think you need it? A lot of people still ride and race hardtails.
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Old 10-06-05, 05:07 PM
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Yeah, there's some device that pops up on ebay every once in a while. For about 5lbs or so, you can get a huge 2 inches of travel, with a coil straight off of a pogo stick. Get a new frame, or get a suspension post if you want to take the edge off fire roads. I've been riding since before suspension, and while I own one FS, it's certainly not the most important feature to me.
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Old 10-07-05, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorianokhamp
Hi guys ! I would like to add a rear suspension to by GT and make it a softail. Any ideas how to do that ?
Thanks. Bernhard
Pointless and a waste of a decent frame.
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Old 10-07-05, 04:58 AM
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Thudbuster. I love mine.
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Old 10-07-05, 05:55 AM
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Yes a device called the Shockster. A rather ridiculous looking thing, but it does work. Hoever I am not sure of its durability.
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Old 10-07-05, 03:54 PM
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hey whats up it sounds lik efun you will need a torch welder tools and time and some parts and some more time and tools but go for it have fun
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
Thudbuster. I love mine.
Inefficient, and a poor substitute for a real suspension system, however if it makes you more comfortable good for you..
https://www.bikeforums.net/mountain-biking/94185-suspension-seat-post.html
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Raiyn, you and I will never agree on this one. The Thudbuster might be too much, but the RockShox post does a good job of smoothing out small road/trail irregularities. It's not suspension, but it's certainly a viable option for a bit of comfort. Just ask the cute blue eyed girl that sits behind me on our tandem.
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Old 10-08-05, 01:56 AM
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I'm not making judments here...

I'm just repsonding to the question..
in the early 90' i think 1992 to be exact a swiss downhill racer won the world cup ussing a "Leading Link" design that was attach to the forks and the rear end of a hardtail, sorry i can not remenber any of the names..

some how they idea was interesting in terms of having two bikes at ones, but the suspension tecnology got better so fast in less than a year the sistem became obsolete, so far i don't think is anything in the market that can do what you are asking "exactlly" but yes the suspension seatpost kind of work, the thugbuster is actually really good in terms of shock absortion but if you really want suspension performance is a miilion frame choices from 1" to about 14inches of travel..

i hope this little information helps
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Old 10-11-05, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Inefficient, and a poor substitute for a real suspension system, however if it makes you more comfortable good for you..
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=94185
Well I'm sure not saying that a sprung post will do all the things that a well-designed full suspension frame will do, but at around $100, I find it to be a damn site more efficient with my hard earned cash than it would be to toss a good bike without rear suspension and buy a new one. Or in the case of the OP, to destroy a good frame in an unlikely attempt to give it a sex change operation.
I take it you spent a lot on your FS bike and are really sensitive to anyone going a less expensive way?
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Ok, once more for the people that don't get it.

1. Rear suspension is about control and traction.

2. Suspension seat posts are about comfort.

A suspension post does nothing to help you control your bike in the rough, and does nothing to keep your back wheel firmly planted to the terra firma. It does offer a bit of comfort on those sections of a ride where you actually sit on the seat. That's it. It is in no way a substitute for rear suspension, but if you are after comfort on the way to the trailhead, it's not a bad investment.
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Shockster... lol.



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All that travel, PLUS you get to retain your cantilever brakes? What's not to love?
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
I take it you spent a lot on your FS bike and are really sensitive to anyone going a less expensive way?
Actually I didn't spend all that much in the grand scheme of things, but I'm not here to boast of my purchasing prowess.
What I'm saying is exactly what Expat said. It's a comfort item and is not to be confused with real suspension. But you'd know that if you actually read the thread on the link I provided
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Actually I didn't spend all that much in the grand scheme of things, but I'm not here to boast of my purchasing prowess.
Leave that to me, right?
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Leave that to me, right?
As if I'd try to compete with someone who bought Ti disc rotors for his tandem.
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As if I'd try to compete with someone who bought Ti disc rotors for his tandem.
Ouch! I really don't like to think about that, other than to warn other people. Of course, if you're cool with replacing them every 150 miles, then I suggest you get a set.

I'm pretty stoked right now, as my wife is actually getting more hours at work. This ups my "Allowance" to about $250-300/week. Of course, even AU$1000/month doesn't get you much over here, but it's a start. I feel the need to replace the 2 bikes we sold when we got our Electra cruisers. I considered have a Nexus 7 built up for my 24" BMX, so I could chase down roadies, but then I got an even better idea. Another coupled Ti frame with matching fork, seatpost, bars, and a Nexus 7 laced to 24" wheels. Done right, I can have a sub 20lb commuter/touring bike. I need it like a hole in the head, but that's never stopped me before.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
What I'm saying is exactly what Expat said. It's a comfort item and is not to be confused with real suspension. But you'd know that if you actually read the thread on the link I provided
Yes, I read the linked thread and I see that you keep saying the same thing ad nauseum. Hey, we get it. But do you think it might be OK for someone to mention the "real" comfort benefits of a suspension seatpost without having to endure you saying it again?
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
Hey, we get it.
That's good, because the people in the thread didn't ergo the repetition. (It's also not the first thread on the topic either)
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But do you think it might be OK for someone to mention the "real" comfort benefits of a suspension seatpost without having to endure you saying it again?
Aww did I hurt someone's feelings? The facts of the matter are these:
  1. The guy wanted to cut up his frame to add suspension making no mention of his reasons for doing so
  2. It's a bad idea.
  3. Everyone agrees that cutting up the frame is bad
  4. You suggested a Thudbuster mentioning nothing of any benefits comfort or otherwise
  5. I stated "Inefficient, and a poor substitute for a real suspension system, however if it makes you more comfortable good for you.."
If you want to extol the virtues of the Thudbuster as a comfort item by all means do so. I won't stop you. By that same token I will inform people that it's comfort value is about all it has going for it as it has no other benefits that would be comparable to a real suspension system. I'd do the same if you were talking about a suspension stem in place of a suspension fork
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