What are the consequences? you toss the frame in the rubbish bin
and get another one..

They're so light you can stand back quite a ways from the bin.

Wrench hasn't posted on BF since 08-22-08 05:10 PM
Maybe he's lurking and will see your post. Someone else may have info for you, of course.

The dropouts on classic steel frames were forged from mild steel to allow them to bend for alignment and repair purposes. Modern frames don't retain this malleability and so disposable hangers are often used to allow easy replacement of the hanger when it is damaged.

Sounds like crap to me too. Countless frames have bolted on hangers with shifting that's crisper than anything thought possible a dozen years ago. The amount of force a normal shift puts on the hanger is nowhere near enough to induce play in the interface if it's bolted on properly.

Scott having non replaceable hangers on carbon frames is an easy way to make money off broken frames. The fact they try to use it as a selling point is shameful.

Also, BF should prompt you if you're bumping a thread more than a year old, IMO.

Yeah, right.

For the record, I've bent a lot of steel frame derailleur hangers back using either just my hands or a big Crescent wrench clamped over the derailleur mounting bolt. I don't even take off the rear derailleur for fear of ovalizing the mounting hole.

Never found a use for a hammer that big in a bike shop.

Seriously? We're worried about people calling each other *****s here?

Sheesh.

...Ha, the plural's not on the list!

It doesn't sound like necessarily complete crap to me (shifts to larger cogs can briefly induce quite a bit of strain), but if it's a real effect, it's a 0.5 percenter...

Nice tip. I guess ideally, you'd have a flat little bolt and nut for the job...