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litvack49 02-28-06 06:53 AM

small chainring problems
 
My wifes cannondale road warrior keeps throwing the chain when shifting to the small chainring it has thumb shifters it only happens when she ride I cannot duplicate the problem on a stand or on the road.would a chain deflector be good to use in this case

mav67 02-28-06 06:59 AM

Perhaps you could adjust the lower limit screw to move the derailler cage more to the right side of the bike. Probably adjust it until you can JUST downshift onto your smallest chain ring. And make sure the derailler is aligned properly relatively to the chain rings.

litvack49 02-28-06 07:06 AM

Ok I covered all that she is very hesitant with the shifters which may be the problem like I said it only happens when she rides so I don't think its an adjustment since nobody else has a problem with the bike.that' s why I was thinking of a chai deflector

HillRider 02-28-06 08:21 AM

Third Eye Chain Watchers cost less than $10 and, installed properly, prevent the problems you are describing. In fact you can set the inner derailleur stop to give a very firm downshift to the granny without worrying that the chain will come off.

Almost any LBS has them and they are easy to install.

litvack49 02-28-06 09:24 AM

Thanks I think I will try one as it is now its a pain to keep puting her chain back on also she hesitites to use the granny on hills

MichaelW 02-28-06 10:37 AM

Is the FD mech positioned correctly. If it is too high then under stress, it will throw the chain to far inboard due to the profile of the FD.
What is the min/max chainring size?
What style of FD?
What is the gap between FD and max chainring?

Retro Grouch 02-28-06 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by HillRider
Third Eye Chain Watchers cost less than $10 and, installed properly, prevent the problems you are describing. In fact you can set the inner derailleur stop to give a very firm downshift to the granny without worrying that the chain will come off.

Almost any LBS has them and they are easy to install.

Agree. That's what I would do too.

litvack49 02-28-06 11:33 AM

I'm going to double check der height but since this problem only happens to one rider I doubt that's it but its worth a look thanks to all for the advice

The Great Stonk 02-28-06 01:51 PM

if shes only using the granny on hills - are you sure shes not shifting under load ? i can force my chain off the bottom ring by flicking the gear down while climbing without backing off the pressure - but ive set my mech to give a nice positive downshift, so i only have to back off for a quarter revolution...

HillRider 02-28-06 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by The Great Stonk
if shes only using the granny on hills - are you sure shes not shifting under load ? i can force my chain off the bottom ring by flicking the gear down while climbing without backing off the pressure - but ive set my mech to give a nice positive downshift, so i only have to back off for a quarter revolution...

You're correct that shifting before it's absolutely necessary and relieving pedal pressure works better and reduces chain spilling problems. However, a lot of riders, particularly inexperienced ones, don't shift until they are forced to and anything that helps them is worthwhile.

litvack49 02-28-06 06:54 PM

You know you may have it she doesn't like the thumb shift at all so I think she may wait too long before shifting causing the chain to jump now if I can work with her without getting a divorce the problem will be solved or maybe stay married and get a chain watcher. Thanks for all the input

rmfnla 02-28-06 08:47 PM

Put her on the stand and watch how she uses the gears.

My wife had the same problem; turns out she would crank extra hard while shifting (she remembered the sales guy telling her to NEVER stop pedaling while shifting when she bought her first bike) and the extra force was binding the derailleur.

I had her pedal steadily while I shifted for her and she picked up "the feel" really fast.

As to the divorce part, ask Dr. Phil...

litvack49 03-01-06 05:41 AM

Ok this sounds reasonable it has to be something in her shifting style practice on a trainer mey be just the thing thanks


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