yet another paint question
02-27-06, 03:35 PM
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yet another paint question
I'm having a friend paint some designs on my frame with a paint brush.
How do I best remove the goo under the stickers? An enviro-friendly solution would be best.
How should I prep the frame for painting?
What kind of paint should she use? I was thinking testors enamel with a clear coat on top would be durable enough.
How do I best remove the goo under the stickers? An enviro-friendly solution would be best.
How should I prep the frame for painting?
What kind of paint should she use? I was thinking testors enamel with a clear coat on top would be durable enough.
02-27-06, 06:41 PM
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Use a mild solvent like naphtha, paint thinner or alchohol for the adhesive. Just keep it way from any new paint that might be on there.
Either get it down to bare metal or scuff sand the old finish. Clean and degrease it, prime with auto type primer if it's down to metal. Remove any traces of rust of course.
The pros either powdercoat or spray acrylic urethane. I spray urethane with a gun or disposable preval. If you're not going to all that trouble and do it with spray cans then I'd probably use the acrylic laqcuer/enamel cans you see in the automotive department at wherever. 'duplicolor?' I'd go 3-4 coats of color then 3-4 of clearcoat minimum. Don't let it dry too long between coats. Each should 'eat' a little into the other for a better finish. Let it dry and cure till you can't put a fingernail mark in it. It might be a week to a month.
Tell your friend to put the paint on thin if she can. Bumps will show when you've got a shiny clearcoat over it.
Either get it down to bare metal or scuff sand the old finish. Clean and degrease it, prime with auto type primer if it's down to metal. Remove any traces of rust of course.
The pros either powdercoat or spray acrylic urethane. I spray urethane with a gun or disposable preval. If you're not going to all that trouble and do it with spray cans then I'd probably use the acrylic laqcuer/enamel cans you see in the automotive department at wherever. 'duplicolor?' I'd go 3-4 coats of color then 3-4 of clearcoat minimum. Don't let it dry too long between coats. Each should 'eat' a little into the other for a better finish. Let it dry and cure till you can't put a fingernail mark in it. It might be a week to a month.
Tell your friend to put the paint on thin if she can. Bumps will show when you've got a shiny clearcoat over it.
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02-27-06, 10:32 PM
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Are you interested in a totally new paint job or a supplement your existing one? If you are just trying to redecal it and save the color, use a product called Adhesive-wax-grease remover on a 3M Scotchbrite.
02-28-06, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by moki
I'm having a friend paint some designs on my frame with a paint brush.
Auto-Air Colors from Createx makes a great waterbased paint that is usually airbrushed/sprayed. Also standard artist acrylis work well when brushed. Let them dry well. Testors & other enamel hobby paints will interfere with Urethane clears. It may run or bubble. If you are going to brush with Testors, paint the frame with enamel rattle-can paint & clear with same.
How do I best remove the goo under the stickers? An enviro-friendly solution would be best.
Automotive Paint Supply stores have a product especially for removing adhesive (sticker glue). This stuff is actually great to have on hand as it removes price tag glue really easily too!!!
How should I prep the frame for painting?
FIRST: Remove ALL the parts. Every last bolt, cups, races, clamps, EVERYTHING! Then...
Easy...Sand the bad spots, remove sticker glue, wash with wax&grease remover*. *(from same store as mentioned above.) Spray primer, spray color, brushwork, clear.
Meticulous...Search the forum for all my recent diatribes about painting.
What kind of paint should she use? I was thinking testors enamel with a clear coat on top would be durable enough.
It's fairly durable, as long as you let it set for SEVERAL WEEKS! seriously...spray can paint WILL look nice if you don't rush to put the bike together. When you do assemble the bike, put the seat post infirst and clamp that in the repair stand to put all the other parts on.
Auto-Air Colors from Createx makes a great waterbased paint that is usually airbrushed/sprayed. Also standard artist acrylis work well when brushed. Let them dry well. Testors & other enamel hobby paints will interfere with Urethane clears. It may run or bubble. If you are going to brush with Testors, paint the frame with enamel rattle-can paint & clear with same.
How do I best remove the goo under the stickers? An enviro-friendly solution would be best.
Automotive Paint Supply stores have a product especially for removing adhesive (sticker glue). This stuff is actually great to have on hand as it removes price tag glue really easily too!!!
How should I prep the frame for painting?
FIRST: Remove ALL the parts. Every last bolt, cups, races, clamps, EVERYTHING! Then...
Easy...Sand the bad spots, remove sticker glue, wash with wax&grease remover*. *(from same store as mentioned above.) Spray primer, spray color, brushwork, clear.
Meticulous...Search the forum for all my recent diatribes about painting.
What kind of paint should she use? I was thinking testors enamel with a clear coat on top would be durable enough.
It's fairly durable, as long as you let it set for SEVERAL WEEKS! seriously...spray can paint WILL look nice if you don't rush to put the bike together. When you do assemble the bike, put the seat post infirst and clamp that in the repair stand to put all the other parts on.
Dr.D
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I'm having a friend paint some designs on my frame with a paint brush.
Auto-Air Colors from Createx makes a great waterbased paint that is usually airbrushed/sprayed. Also standard artist acrylis work well when brushed.
Thanks for your help.
02-28-06, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
I should've clarified that the frame is new.
I think I'll search out the Auto-Air colors, ($8-$25 4oz.!)in the hopes that they come in small amounts. Otherwise, standard acrylics it is.
Thanks for your help.
I think I'll search out the Auto-Air colors, ($8-$25 4oz.!)in the hopes that they come in small amounts. Otherwise, standard acrylics it is.
Thanks for your help.
Keep on customizin'!
Dr.D
