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Old 03-25-06, 12:15 PM
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the "c" in campagnolo is for "crap"

Its probably my fault, but my seatpost binder bolt on my track bike just snapped, probably from torquing too hard. Campy sucks!
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
Its probably my fault, but my seatpost binder bolt on my track bike just snapped, probably from torquing too hard. Campy sucks!
yep. i've snapped a few campy binders and each time it was my fault...

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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
the "c" in campagnolo is for "crap"
And the "ampagnolo" is for ", I wish I'd bought those carefully machined products from Italy."

Actually, it's pretty interesting that you can snap Campy binders. Are they steel? I've stripped out some aluminum seatpost collars (where the steel bolt threads into aluminum collar), but have a few bikes with steel Sugino seatpost bolt, and have never seen any problems with them...
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There was a story going around a few years ago that Campy made their seatpost binder bolts intentionally weak so they would break if you over-torqued them and protect the frame from damage. Don't know if it's true.

I've had one Suguino binder bolt break in 20+ years and it may have been weakened by corrosion.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
There was a story going around a few years ago that Campy made their seatpost binder bolts intentionally weak so they would break if you over-torqued them and protect the frame from damage. Don't know if it's true.
That was the theory at the bike shop today when I got it replaced.
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No wonder, it's not Scottish!
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Wow, this is freaky! I broke my seatpost binder bolt just this morning! It was Gipiemme though, not Campy. Should we extend this thread to include all crap Italian things?!?



EDIT: It was my fault though, too much power!
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uh yeah,... campy sucks. ok.
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How often does that happen??? I had a friend who go into a bad accident because of that. I thought it was a freak accident thing. Apparently it's more common than I thought. Any good way to test that bolt before riding?
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You could just not overtorque it in the first place.
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Originally Posted by spider-man
You could just not overtorque it in the first place.
Don't be ridiculous. If it broke the only possible cause is due to it being crap.
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
Its probably my fault, but my seatpost binder bolt on my track bike just snapped, probably from torquing too hard. Campy sucks!
Things wear out. Big deal. A seatpost bolt is a small fastener being used in an area requiring a large amount of torque. Of course you will break the odd bolt. Don't blame campagnolo/shimano/sugino/gipiemme/whoever.

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Originally Posted by Comatose51
How often does that happen??? I had a friend who go into a bad accident because of that. I thought it was a freak accident thing. Apparently it's more common than I thought. Any good way to test that bolt before riding?
How in Gods name could you have a big accident because your seatpost binder bolt broke?

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Mechanic's fault . . . over-torqueng.
Drink too much, get really drunk, puke, hung over . . . hey it's the beer . . . right? Ergo:beer sux!
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
Its probably my fault, but my seatpost binder bolt on my track bike just snapped, probably from torquing too hard. Campy sucks!
"T" is for Too much Torque when Tightening.

"C" is for Crying "gorrilla mechanic" after snaping the bolt.

The recommended torque for a Campagnolo binder bolt is only 3-5 ft lbs.

See:

https://www.bsn.com/Cycling/Torques.html
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The "i" in genericbikedude is for "I have no idea what I'm doing"
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Aint a guy allowed to vent? Jeez, its like I was calliing your mother a fat 'ho or something the way you took offence.
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Originally Posted by genericbikedude
Aint a guy allowed to vent? Jeez, its like I was calliing your mother a fat 'ho or something the way you took offence.
It's just fine to vent. But your subject line seemed controvery-inspiring (knowing you from these forums, I don't think that was your intent), and it did set itself up for mockery and imitations...
I guess the point is to be clear when venting is venting, as to a real/careful critique. This thread seemed more like something that would show up in the Road forum, not the mechanics forum where people usually phrase things more carefully.
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Campy seat bolts are very commonly known to break. Like the other poster said, Sugino bolts hold up much better.
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