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Old 04-24-06, 10:46 PM
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twisted spoke / snowflake

I've got a wheel that I want to switch the hub out on, but the replacement hub is significantly higher flange. I really don't want to have to go buy some new spokes. If I make a snowflake-type wheel, I can use the current spokes. I've done it once before and it seemed fine once sufficiently tightened up.

Any compelling reasons why I shouldn't do this? Current wheel is a 26" deep v with a BMX hub, laced 3l3t.
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Changing the size of the hub flange shouldn't be a huge deal. The difference in ideal spoke length will barely change because your wheel isn't laced radially or near-radially. Unless I'm mistaken, you'll do fine if you keep the same spoke pattern, and also have the option to switch to a regular 3x spoke pattern.
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Any time you rebuild a wheel you should change spokes. The longer the wheel has been ridden the more important that is. Also if you are changing the the the lace pattern, you are changing the spoke angle at the hub. Any time a wheel is built the spoke heads seat and bend to fit the hub, This would lead to many failures. I also have done it before, but the wheel had only been used twice, and I was changing the rim. Even then the reliability was not so great.
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I ended up being able to use the same spoke pattern as before, but only because it was a deep section rim. The spokes are sticking out of the nipples about half an inch, but they're still well clear of the edge. On a normal-depth rim it would have been total fail.

The hub is from the 60s, made of hardened steel, so I'm not really worried about potential fatigue damage to it. No way it's going to snap in half like a modern alu hub.
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half an inch? where can I get some of these all-thread spokes? or did you thread them yourself?

Al hubs get divots from the spoke, but I think the other poster was talking about how you get bends in the spoke as well, and changing the lacing pattern makes a second one. This is worse on steel, since it the spoke has to do all of the bending. Hence why steel hubs kind of suck.
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