Straight vs butted spokes, Who's stronger?
04-26-06, 04:56 PM
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Straight vs butted spokes, Who's stronger?
So, I know I have seen this discussion before. I tried various search phrases and combinations and couldn't find anything.
So... which will make a more stable touring wheel; straight gauge or butted spokes?
So... which will make a more stable touring wheel; straight gauge or butted spokes?
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Originally Posted by Old_Fart
So, I know I have seen this discussion before. I tried various search phrases and combinations and couldn't find anything.
So... which will make a more stable touring wheel; straight gauge or butted spokes?
So... which will make a more stable touring wheel; straight gauge or butted spokes?
See: https://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#spokes
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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
I don't know what you mean by "stable" but for the most reliable wheel, go with buttered spooks.
See: https://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#spokes
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See: https://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#spokes
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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
I don't know what you mean by "stable"
04-26-06, 08:40 PM
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Butted spokes are stronger and make stronger wheels. See https://www.sapim.be/ They have some charts showing that their lightest butted spokes are the strongest and most reliable by far.
Regards, Anthony
Regards, Anthony
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The mechanics behind why butted spokes make a more durable wheel is actually because they flex more in the middle than straight-gauge spokes (assuming the comparison is between 14-gauge straight spokes, and 14/15/14-gauge butted spokes). Butted spokes are just as strong at the elbow and the threads - where spokes fail when they fail - but can stretch more in the middle, which has two benefits:
* spokes are less likely to come loose out of tension through stress cycles in the wheel, and so they're less likely to fail at the elbows
* forces end up being more effectively spread out over the rim
* spokes are less likely to come loose out of tension through stress cycles in the wheel, and so they're less likely to fail at the elbows
* forces end up being more effectively spread out over the rim
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