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Old 05-14-06, 10:33 PM
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question about building a wheel myself

I've needed rear wheel for quite awhile and I saw on wheel world a rim onsale for 19.99. Is this a good price for this rim? The cheapest rear wheel at my lbs is 90 dollars. I'm confident, I can build one for around 50. Are there any specific tools I would need?

http://wheelworld.com/itemdetails.cf...gId=39&id=3328
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Seems like a good deal, but you still have to buy a hub and spokes. Are you confident enough in your skills that you think you could build a wheel ( a straight one ) ?
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Old 05-14-06, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by free_pizza
Seems like a good deal, but you still have to buy a hub and spokes. Are you confident enough in your skills that you think you could build a wheel ( a straight one ) ?
Yea I've found that rim for 20$, a deore rear hub for 20$, and I'm not sure how much spokes cost.

I don't know if I could get it straight because I'm not sure what building a wheel entails, thats why I made this thread lol.
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Old 05-14-06, 11:03 PM
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I might venture into building a wheel too when the SRAM I-9 comes out, let us know how it turns out if you DIY.
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Originally Posted by NoF3ar
Yea I've found that rim for 20$, a deore rear hub for 20$, and I'm not sure how much spokes cost.

I don't know if I could get it straight because I'm not sure what building a wheel entails, thats why I made this thread lol.
spokes will be about .50 to a 1.00 or more each depending on what kind you want
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Old 05-14-06, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mx_599
spokes will be about .50 to a 1.00 or more each depending on what kind you want
I found some for .20 and .35 cents.

My question is- do the spoke sizes matter? The ones I want to buy are 1.7 X 250MM..

Also, do the spokes come with everything I need to put them on the rim? Excuse me for not knowing what everthing is called, but do they come with those things to tighten the rims? or do I need something more than a rim, hub, and spokes.
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Old 05-14-06, 11:24 PM
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[QUOTE=NoF3ar]
I found some for .20 and .35 cents.


My question is- do the spoke sizes matter? The ones I want to buy are 1.7 X 250MM..
oh yes....you need a spoke calculator:
i can send it to you if you give me your email

Also, do the spokes come with everything I need to put them on the rim? Excuse me for not knowing what everthing is called, but do they come with those things to tighten the rims? or do I need something more than a rim, hub, and spokes.
you will also need a spoke wrench and nipples
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Old 05-14-06, 11:29 PM
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Where can I get nipples? I didn't notice any of the sites I checked out selling nipples.
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Old 05-14-06, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NoF3ar
Where can I get nipples? I didn't notice any of the sites I checked out selling nipples.
at the same places...sometimes the spokes come with nipples. that is something you'll just have to investigate because i wouldn't know if they did or not. some places sell the spokes in a box or individually. you might have to call the place and just ask if nipples come with them.
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Old 05-14-06, 11:38 PM
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If you have any mechanical ability wheel building is not hard. Use the directions here http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#lacing and take your time.
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rear wheels are more complicated im thinking as you have to deal with the dish something its on park tool site, it has to do with how the freehub is centered in the rim , but yeh if your confident enough to do it, give it a shot, the worst possible scenario is that you end up having a LBS finish it
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Old 05-14-06, 11:49 PM
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At this point I'm trying to find all the parts, and then go on to figure out how to put it together.
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This was posted elsewhere on the forums in the mechanic section, I think you might find it usfull.

http://www.damonrinard.com/spocalc.htm
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I've built a few wheels and it does take some getting used to. However i'm not too good doing the 'final straighten' of the wheel (truing it up). However i cannot stress enough how important a probalby built up wheel is, a poorly built wheel will buckle very easily from expereince!

Good luck anyway
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You might save a couple of bucks by building your own set of wheels , but you'll be better off if you have a pro build them for you . I have an old set of wheels built by Steve Gravenites ( www.gravywheels.net )and have never had a problem with them . Gravy used to build wheels for Yeti and Cannondale Factory Teams .
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Don't listen to the naysayers. Building a wheel is pretty straightforward if you pay attention to what you're doing. Use the guide at Sheldon Brown's website and you'll be cool. I actually just built up a new 24" wheel for my .243 (Hadley/Sun Rhyno Lite XL) while sitting at home. I built it up and got it fairly straight whilst sitting on my sofa. I then ran down to the LBS (with a six pack of beer) to use their truing stand to bring it up to tension, give it the proper dish, and true it up.

Easy as pie. Good luck!
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If you really want to build a rear wheel and learn how to do it, then go for it. But if you are doing it to save money, I wouldn't bother.

If you buy your hub ($20), rim ($20), spokes and nipples ($20), you are at $60. Then add on some tools and loctite/linseed oil and you may be around $70. Then, if you aren't comfortable with your work, you may want the LBS to true it for you...another $10-20.

Or you could just pick up a pre-made set of wheels like these Deore/Rhynolites from Jenson for $90 (http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...Wheelset.aspx). Front and rear wheels which accept disc and v-brake so you can use them as a backup wheel for a for a future bike with disc brakes. I guess the only issue would be how many speeds your bike has right now.
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I'm with never on this one. I'm a pretty good wheelbuilder, and I find it fun, but it's rarely cheaper than buying a pre-built wheel, even when you get stuff on sale. There's two reasons for this:
* wheel-producing outfits buy stuff in bulk, and benefit from economies of scale
* if you factor in time, and the hourly value of your time, you won't even come close to breaking even

That said, wheelbuilding is fun, and more importantly you gain an understanding of how the structure of a wheel works, and become much better at truing a wheel in the process.

For spokes, you should use double-butted 14/15/14-gauge (2.0/1.8/2.0mm). It's counterintuitive, but butted spokes (thinner in the middle) make for stronger wheels. When spokes break, it's nearly always by the threads or the elbow, and butted spokes are just as thick here as straight-gauge spokes. And the thinner center section means that they stretch more for a given amount of tension, which ends up spreading forces around the rim better when you hit a pothole or just from typical stress cycles of riding.
Make sure you use spokecalc to calculate the correct length of spokes. Many spokes include nipples in the price.
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Jaypee , I'm not saying don't try it , but don't do it to save a few bucks .
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Jaypee , I'm not saying don't try it , but don't do it to save a few bucks .
Oh, I completely agree. However, I think everyone should build up a set of wheels at least once just for the experience. I find the experience quite meditative for some reason.
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Originally Posted by jaypee
Oh, I completely agree. However, I think everyone should build up a set of wheels at least once just for the experience. I find the experience quite meditative for some reason.
+1 . Building a wheelset and riding with wheels that you built , is a great feeling .
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I really don't need 2 wheels, and Im not paying 90 dollars. If I can't get something for cheap, I don't want it then. Im not sure about this wheel building thing, all the tools are going to cost too.
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Sounds like alll you care about is price. You ought to be able to get a good used wheel for way less than $90. Building your own, like brewing your own beer, isn't going to save you any $$$ and is going to leave you with a crappy wheel if you don't know what you're doing.
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No I care about learning too.
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