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Old 06-30-06, 08:04 AM
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Do I need Threadless Headset?

I have a Trek 3500 hardtail mtb and I recently bought a Trekking Handlebar for it from Nashbar. The problem is that break and shifters have become closer to the seatpost than they were on the previous flat-handlebar. I need to push it further at least until the previous position which means I assume, is I need to replace the stem. My stem however seems to be a part of the threaded headset (Quill type).

So...
Do I need to change to a threadless headset and then get a longer stem? From the looks of it, this change will lower the handlebar height as well, so I will need a raiser too.

What are my options?

Edit: Are headsets specific to the forks? So if I change headset, do I have to change the fork as well?
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Old 06-30-06, 08:18 AM
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Kalloy and Nitto make threaded (quill) stems in a variety of lengths that are available in both 26.0 and 25.4 clamp diameters. It's probably your most affordable option.
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Originally Posted by drcrash
Kalloy and Nitto make threaded (quill) stems in a variety of lengths that are available in both 26.0 and 25.4 clamp diameters. It's probably your most affordable option.
Another option would be threadless adapter. The threadless adapter is just a quill with a 1 1/8" tube on top of it like this. A threadless stem is then clamped onto the quill. The advantage is that there are lots and lots of threadless stems in all kinds of lengths (40mm to 150mm) and most of them have 2 or 4 bolt faceplates that make changing the stem a breeze.
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cyccommute: Thanks for the info. So if I were to go with this solution, I would keep my fork, headset, and just remove the quill and stem I have now and replace with new longer stem and the threadless adapter, right? If that will work, I can cheaply get the stuff working the way I want to.
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Originally Posted by crypticlineage
cyccommute: Thanks for the info. So if I were to go with this solution, I would keep my fork, headset, and just remove the quill and stem I have now and replace with new longer stem and the threadless adapter, right? If that will work, I can cheaply get the stuff working the way I want to.
Yes. It's a little heavier than a regular quill but it has the advantage of how easy it is to change threadless stems over a regular quill. And, like I said before, there are lots more choices on stems.

By the way, that $5 price from Nashbar is a killer price! $15 was an excellent price to begin with.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Yes. It's a little heavier than a regular quill but it has the advantage of how easy it is to change threadless stems over a regular quill. And, like I said before, there are lots more choices on stems.

By the way, that $5 price from Nashbar is a killer price! $15 was an excellent price to begin with.
Definitely a great price! I paid ~$15 for my Profile Design threadless adapter!


And I don't even use it anymore...
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The threadless adaptor is definitely the cheapest and most versatile way to go. I've got a 3500 as well and it's what I did. Actually changing it out for a threadless involves a lot of time and money (which is a rather irritating thing about owning the 3500). Another issue about the headset is that it's 1 1/8", making it even more difficult to find a quill-type stem that fits since they're almost all made for 1" headsets.
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Wuneyeddog: So I figure, I will need to get a 1-1/8" adaptor. Unfortunately Nashbar raised price on it just now, but its still a good price. Now the question is what size stem should I get. I dont know exactly how far I need to push my handlebar from the adaptor, unless I try it. Also, did your handlebar go low when you installed the threadless adaptor, or it remained at the same elevation? I like the position of the handlebar I have now, and would like to continue using the same position. Can you guys recommend what stems would be suitable?
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Originally Posted by drcrash
Kalloy and Nitto make threaded (quill) stems in a variety of lengths that are available in both 26.0 and 25.4 clamp diameters. It's probably your most affordable option.
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Why buy a threadless adaptor when there are still so many quill stems available that fit your needs. Nashbar, as you know, has killer prices on small parts. Good luck

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Originally Posted by cs1
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Why buy a threadless adaptor when there are still so many quill stems available that fit your needs. Nashbar, as you know, has killer prices on small parts. Good luck

Tim
The main reason for using a threadless adaptor is that changing the bars is much easier with threadless stems. Most quill have one pince bolt which makes changing stems or bars much more complicated. You have to remove the tape or grips, brake levers and shift levers, then thread the handlebar through the stem (not necessarily an easy process depending on the bar) and then redo everything to put it all back together. With a threadless stem, most, if not all, have two bolt or 4 bolt faceplates that make changing the stem a simple process.
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