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Old 01-16-07, 02:44 AM
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SHIMANO STI and mountain cahainrings and front derailleur compatibility

Hi All.
Can anybody help me? I planned setup on my touring Shimano STI shifters. Bu I have mountain groups Chainrings (Deore). I know, that didn't comatible with each other. Is anyone solver this problem?
Yours trully, Viacheslav Besedin.
RUSSIA.
PS: sorry for my bad English.
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I have never tried this and could be wrong. Perhaps someone else can give you more help.
You may be able to use a "down pull" mountain type derailleur. The cable will need to pass under the bottom bracket. There will need to be a cable guide under the bottom bracket. Indexing will not be the same as mountain style shifters. Road bike triple STI shifters have 4 positions for the 3 chainrings. Mountain bike shifters and derailliers do not have the same spacing and throw ratios as road bikes.
I believe you may be able to make it work anyway.
Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

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You won't have any problems with the chainrings themselves, the incompatibility is with front deraillers. They are cheap, maybe just get a road series front derailler, 105 would be a good choice and it should all work fine.
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I'm not sure of your question. Do you already have mountain chainrings on a road bike or are you trying to put road drop bars on a mountain bike? If you have a road bike that already has a working mountain bike triple crankset on it, the front derailleur you have is fine. Shimano STI road shifters will work. If you are trying to put a mountain crankset on a road bike with STI shifters, you can do that, but you will need the correct front derailleur. The FD cage is shorter and wider for a mountain crankset than for a road crankset. I currently use an XTR crankset, an XT front derailleur and Ultegra shifters (9 speed) on my touring bike; it's a nice setup for hilly terrain. Your rear derailleur needs to be able to handle the new difference in total teeth if you only had a double crankset there to begin with. Good luck.
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As mentioned before, any road STI compatible ft derailleur will work. The MTB front derailleur has a slightly different pull length and isn't compatible with the STI shifter. Good luck

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Many thanks to all answered. Probably, the best decision use of the road derailleur will be valid. However seat tube diameter on my bicycle 31.8 I do not know diameter, whether there are road switches with such clamp diameter? Here still the interesting information which to me managed to be found: https://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=%204068
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Yes there are. That's probably close to the diametre of the seat tube of our tandem and I had no problem finding a road derailleur. That should be the case in Canada, U.S. and Western Europe at least.

If you have bottom pull, no problem in finding a road derailleur; with top pull (i.e. cable coming from the top), I have no idea.

As for compatibility, once you have a road derailleur, you should not have any shifting issues. One potential problem is the chain falling down "inside" the small chainring. If that's a problem, I would suggest installing a gizmo such as the n-gear Jump Stop.
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Men, i resolve upon front road derailleur. But how about chainline? At my rear cassete and front mountain crancs and bottom bracket chainline is 47.5 . But road front derailleur has chainline 45. Is it a big problem?
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Originally Posted by Oxygen_H
Men, i resolve upon front road derailleur. But how about chainline? At my rear cassete and front mountain crancs and bottom bracket chainline is 47.5 . But road front derailleur has chainline 45. Is it a big problem?
Sincerelly yours, Viacheslav Besedin aka Oxygen_H
Our never ending quest continues. I'm sure someone here has attempted what you are trying to do. I have an old set of 7 speed RSX brifters that I want to mate to an old Deore 7 speed group myself. I am waiting to see the result.

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I did the conversion to drop bars with STI shifters on a '93 Trek 7000 rigid fork, hardtail MTB. The routing of the front derailleur cable didn't make substituting a road fd easy and the STI wouldn't index properly with the Deore LX fd. I wound up using a barcon shifter for the front.
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Originally Posted by Oxygen_H
Men, i resolve upon front road derailleur. But how about chainline? At my rear cassete and front mountain crancs and bottom bracket chainline is 47.5 . But road front derailleur has chainline 45. Is it a big problem?
Sincerelly yours, Viacheslav Besedin aka Oxygen_H
It shouldn't be. If you want you can always go with a shorter bottom bracket to move the chainline inward. Going from a 118mm bottom bracket to a 113 mm bottom bracket will bring you in the required amount. Read what Sheldon Brown has to say about chainlines first, however.
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