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NoRacer 03-27-07 06:36 PM

adamlaw, sorry to hear about your son's accident. Hopes for a speedy recovery.

BTW, what QR was on the bike? I ask, because Shimano had a recall for some of their QRs. The notice can be viewed from here:

http://www.performancebike.com/help/recall.cfm

biffstephens 03-27-07 06:50 PM

Again sorry about the crash...hope your son is recovering well....

I would not let the incident sway you from Carbon forks, it seems that is the general opinion is that steel would have been the same outcome....

The spoke being broke so close to the hub makes me think it was a QR issue...are either of the dropout bent in anyway? Possibly one side? Both forks breaking at the same spot seem to suggest them hitting the ground together at speed. Are they scratched on the bottoms? Gouged even?

I just cant see a broken spoke causing this or the fact that it was a carbon fork.......

Again sorry for your son and you in this...I know it has to be hard...

adamlaw 03-29-07 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by sestivers
With all of the new information, I am now convinced that the front wheel fell off. What type of quick release (QR) do you have on the front wheel? It does not appear that the fork had the safety tabs (aka lawyer lips) installed on it, so you should be using enclosed (not exposed) cam QRs. If you weren't, this would have contributed to the wheel coming off. See this Sheldon Brown article to see what I'm talking about.

So my theory now goes as follows:
Front wheel QR is insufficiently tightened (even though it seemed to be tight enough) at home.
Bumpy road loosens the QR.
No safety tabs are in place to hold the wheel on with the loose QR.
Wheel comes out.
Fork is forcefully smashed into the pavement. On its way down, it goes through some spokes on the front wheel.
Fork breaks.

I think this sounds right - no lawyers lips.

adamlaw 03-29-07 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Sorry to hear about your son's injuries. :(

I've been numerous crashes in races @ 30-40mph. One was at the Creston Road Race in SLO. Going down a straightaway, someone tangled up front and my teammate got hit on his handlebars from the side. Instantly turned his handlebars 90-degrees @ 40mph. Fork and wheel shattered instantly and he went over and had same injuries as your son, broken face and concussion. After we gathered up the pieces, we saw that one steel fork-blade had snapped off at the crown, the other was bent 90-degrees sideways. The rim had shattered into 5 pieces. Lots of bent and a couple broken spokes. But the hub was still firmly holding onto both fork-blades.

On your son's bike, if the fork-ends that broke off the fork weren't attached to the wheel, I'd have to conclude that the QR wasn't fully tightened. He may have hit a bump and gotten a little bit of air, or rode over a hole and the wheel dropped down. Once the front wheel came out, the fork hit the ground and broke. The spokes broke when they got caught up in the snapping fork.

My guess as well. How did y our teammate do? Has his face healed, his concussion resolved. Has he turned his fear into caution?

adamlaw 03-29-07 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by trin2du
Couldn't see it in the picture, but is the QR still attached to the wheel?

Not attached - this makes a loose QR most likely explanation.

adamlaw 03-29-07 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho
Sorry to hear about your son's crash.

I think Stacey's question and the OP's answer pretty much sum it up. The wheel came out of the dropout. If the forks had snapped on their own (highly unlikely), the hub would have still been connected to the dropouts.

Sounds like this is what happened: The wheel comes out of the fork dropouts, one of the fork blades goes into the wheel and broke spokes, the fork ends hit the pavement and the forks snap.


I agree this fits the evidence the best. Thanks for posting this.

Dunwood 03-30-07 02:10 PM

New Show: CSI Bicycle Crash - The Evidence Continues to Spin


Adam,

Not trying to make a joke out of your son's accident, I've got a 13yo. But with all the comments, I just couldn't contain myself.

(did the bottom of the fork ends appear as if they hit the pavement hard?)

D

Spokejoker 04-01-07 08:00 PM

Geese.....I never thought of slowing down til now...

gnr rocker 04-01-07 08:04 PM

sue them?

silversmith 04-05-07 10:58 AM

I've had a QR fail when the nut cracked in half.

My vote is for the wheel coming off/forks crashing into ground scenario.


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