Good wheelbuilding book?
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Good wheelbuilding book?
What are the top 2 or 3 wheelbuilding books out there? Is there one that is far better than any other? Trying to take a shot at building up some wheels and I would like a bit more guidance than is generally available in the normal bike repair manuals. Would like something focused on wheelbuilding.
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The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst Brandt
The Art of Wheelbuilding by Gerd Schraner
The Art of Wheelbuilding by Gerd Schraner
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Gerd Schraner's book + Sheldon's site and you're g2g
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"The Art of Wheelbuilding" (Gerd Schraner)
Roger Musson has a great book in .PDF format which is available from the web
There's also "The Bicycle Wheel" (Jobst Brandt)
- Wil
Roger Musson has a great book in .PDF format which is available from the web
There's also "The Bicycle Wheel" (Jobst Brandt)
- Wil
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+1 to the above. Sheldon's focuses on the "how," the other two are good for the "how" and the "why."
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I read Sheldons material and it does provide the "how" to do a 3x but does not go beyond the very basics. I also noted that the other books exist but I am concerned about how old they are. Most have not been revised in 5 or more years and there have been substantial changes to the design of wheel components since then...especially rims. I was hoping to find a book that include some discussion on current production components.
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Originally Posted by oldokie
What are the top 2 or 3 wheelbuilding books out there? Is there one that is far better than any other? Trying to take a shot at building up some wheels and I would like a bit more guidance than is generally available in the normal bike repair manuals. Would like something focused on wheelbuilding.
https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-mechanics/101818-wheelbuilding-instruction.html
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The engineering mechanics of traditional spoked bicycle wheels have not changed, and on this count Brandt's book (and probably the others as well) is still good.
Brandt actually thinks that he figured out understanding bicycle wheels a lot better because he learned to build wheels back when spokes were much less well-made (and more likely to break) than they are nowadays.
Brandt actually thinks that he figured out understanding bicycle wheels a lot better because he learned to build wheels back when spokes were much less well-made (and more likely to break) than they are nowadays.
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Originally Posted by timcupery
The engineering mechanics of traditional spoked bicycle wheels have not changed, and on this count Brandt's book (and probably the others as well) is still good.
Brandt actually thinks that he figured out understanding bicycle wheels a lot better because he learned to build wheels back when spokes were much less well-made (and more likely to break) than they are nowadays.
Brandt actually thinks that he figured out understanding bicycle wheels a lot better because he learned to build wheels back when spokes were much less well-made (and more likely to break) than they are nowadays.
There are much better choices on building wheels than Brandt. OTH, there are no better choices on the physics of wheels than Brandt.
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Originally Posted by cs1
Brandt's book is good...The only problem is that you need to be an engineer to figure it out. He spends way too much time on the physics of wheels and way too little time on building the wheel.
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As Tim noted, the basic physics and mechanics of the spoked bicycle wheel haven't changed in well over 100 years.
What has changed are the materials of construction such as much better, stronger Al alloys for hubs and rims and better made spokes of better materials.
For example, Brandt strongly recommends against radial lacing because he says the direct pull can break hub flanges. There are now hubs designed to specifically handle radial lacing. New materials also allow low spoke count wheels with adequate strength.
Odd-ball lacing patterns, such as Crow's Foot, have been around for decades but current hubs, rims and spokes make them useable.
There are plenty of boutique wheels now available with novel hub, spoke and rim designs but these parts are mostly proprietary and you can't buy them to build (or even repair) these wheels anyway.
As long as you stick to "standard" spoked wheels, Brandt's or Schraner's books or Sheldon's article still give valid, useful advice and techniques.
What has changed are the materials of construction such as much better, stronger Al alloys for hubs and rims and better made spokes of better materials.
For example, Brandt strongly recommends against radial lacing because he says the direct pull can break hub flanges. There are now hubs designed to specifically handle radial lacing. New materials also allow low spoke count wheels with adequate strength.
Odd-ball lacing patterns, such as Crow's Foot, have been around for decades but current hubs, rims and spokes make them useable.
There are plenty of boutique wheels now available with novel hub, spoke and rim designs but these parts are mostly proprietary and you can't buy them to build (or even repair) these wheels anyway.
As long as you stick to "standard" spoked wheels, Brandt's or Schraner's books or Sheldon's article still give valid, useful advice and techniques.
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Originally Posted by lawkd
I have to say, though, that Brandt's lacing method was by far the easiest and most intuitive one I found in any of the above-named sources (and I have them ALL). It's not elaborate or overly complicated. That's what made it work so well for me.
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Originally Posted by lawkd
I have to say, though, that Brandt's lacing method was by far the easiest and most intuitive one I found in any of the above-named sources (and I have them ALL). It's not elaborate or overly complicated. That's what made it work so well for me.
Incredible! I wonder what the chances of that happening were? I'm speechless…
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Originally Posted by HillRider
As Tim noted, the basic physics and mechanics of the spoked bicycle wheel haven't changed in well over 100 years.
Originally Posted by HillRider
As long as you stick to "standard" spoked wheels, Brandt's or Schraner's books or Sheldon's article still give valid, useful advice and techniques.
Tim
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Originally Posted by cs1
Agreed.
Still agree. All I said is that Brandt's book was obviously written by an engineer. He doesn't write like a layman, which I am. I believe in KISS, keep it super simple.
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Still agree. All I said is that Brandt's book was obviously written by an engineer. He doesn't write like a layman, which I am. I believe in KISS, keep it super simple.
Tim
Also, I've been building some wheels laced with a Crow's Foot pattern recently, and found much very useful information on Robert Torre's pages. No one has mentioned him so far; his information is good, and he's very responsive to questions.
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