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Old 06-08-07, 12:44 PM
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Campy 9sp > 10sp upgrade - what parts?

I'm planning to upgrade from my 2001 Campy Daytona/Centaur 9-speed Racing Triple
to a 10-speed system.

I want to change as few parts as possible, so here is what I think I need:

- New 10-speed right hand brake/shifter
- New 10-speed cassette

Will I need a 10-speed rear dérailleur as well? Since I want to keep a triple up-front will this mean I'll need a long-care derailleur? Anything else that I missed? Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You will need a 10-speed chain for sure.

Campy made some changes to their rear derailleurs during their 9-speed era so some will work with 10-speed brifters and some won't. Check with the Campy Only! web site or contact Campy's US distributor to find out if yours will work.
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You may just need a new indexing gear, not a whole new brifter.
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It does look like you can swap the index gear. It is more work than just swapping the lever but way cheaper. Do the index springs and carrier while you are in there.
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Thanks, guys, for some good suggestions. Any idea where I can find these small parts for upgrading the brifters, etc?

Also, any advice on the other parts that might be required -- specifically do I need to get a new 10-speed rear derailleur? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
It does look like you can swap the index gear. It is more work than just swapping the lever but way cheaper. Do the index springs and carrier while you are in there.
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8 & 9 sp use a different carrier than 10 sp. You will need the carrier and Ergo gear. This is really IMPORTANT: while you are taking the brifter apart replace the G-Springs. While you're at it, replace all the springs, they're $5 each. Do both brifters and forget about them for another 5 years.

The 2001 rear derailleur should be the current 9/10 sp version. For best performance you want to use the 10 sp jockey wheels and shorter screws. Actually the plastic wheels are the same for 8 - 10 sp. The screws get shorter on 9 and shorter still on 10 sp. That squeezes the cages closer to eliminate slop with the skinny 10 sp chain.

The 9 sp front derailleur will work, albeit with a little more slop than you need. Don't expect lightning fast shifts though. Current 10 sp fronts use the plastic spacer when in 10 sp and take it out for 8 & 9 sp.

The cassette is a simple swap. Nothing but a $100 bill for a new Centaur level cassette.

You MUST have a 10 sp chain. Campy are a little expensive. They also work very well. I am using a KMC, Campy version, and so far it works great.

Campy doubles, 7, 8, 9 and 10 sp, all use the same crank spider. They achieve the narrow spacing by scalloping the big chainring at the mounting bolt holes. That means the metal is thinner around the holes. That's how they achieve the closer spacing. I don't know about the triple though. You might want to contact Brandford Bike. They are the experts on conversions.

Good luck and I know it will work out well.

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Thanks, Tim, for the excellent level of detail in your advice. I will check with Branford Bike as well.
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Originally Posted by Naidu
Thanks, Tim, for the excellent level of detail in your advice. I will check with Branford Bike as well.
The swap from 8 to 10 is expensive and a lot of work, I did it. The swap from new style 9 sp, post 2001, is relatively painless. IMO, if you have a nice 8 sp group sell it on ebay. Clean Chorus groups go for $350 and up. They have to really clean though. Use the money to defray the cost of the new group. Veloce and Centaur are best buys in the Campy line up.

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