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Old 06-10-07, 04:50 PM
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spokes a-poppin' - buy new wheel

My Lemond came with lower end Alex rims laced to hubs of no discernable brand. I am not light, but I had no problems with them until the front rim got trashed by a blowout.

A supposedly quality bike shop rebuilt it with a new similar lower end Alex rim, 32 spokes radial, original hub.

I'm popping spokes on that wheel at an ever increasing rate. It's getting stupid. They break near where they attach the the hub. I've had them fixed at a couple different shops so it's not one bad mechanic.

The bike shop suggested relacing the wheel with heavier gague spokes in a cross pattern.

I've already put enough money into this wheel to have bought a new one of decent quality. I'm wondering if I should have them rebuild it or just get a new one.
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Old 06-10-07, 05:44 PM
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buy a quality set of set wheels and never look back. Quality wheels are the best investment you'll make with a bike. I've always been happy with mavics, but also have some nuevations, and some velocity. Mavic Open Pro's laced to Ultegra hubs are a popular and solid choice.
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Originally Posted by zowie
I'm wondering if I should have them rebuild it or just get a new one.
Get a new one You don't need to spend a ton of money either.
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New wheels are probably in order, but i'll take a second to explain what i think is happening. First off, a 32 holer is a solid wheel. The issue is if, as a result of your blowout, your rim is bent your wheel will never have proper even tension. getting a wheel true, radially and laterally isn't that tough, but doing that while maintaining even tension can often be impossible. When a wheel has uneven tension, especially with a rider who isn't light, it will eventually unwind and/or be prone to spoke breakage.
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Originally Posted by capwater
The issue is if, as a result of your blowout, your rim is bent your wheel will never have proper even tension. blah blah blah
Not reading carefully, are you:

Originally Posted by zowie
A supposedly quality bike shop rebuilt it with a new similar lower end Alex rim, 32 spokes radial, original hub.
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I for one would like to know what this "rebuild" included. New spokes - or did they just reuse those that did not appear to be damaged? If any were reused, this was a false economy. When a wheel is damaged badly enough to need a rebuild, the spokes that did not break were exposed to lots of uneven tension and stresses. Just because they look fine does not mean that they are. The only real evidence that these spokes have been overstressed comes when the residual stresses at the elbows give way one by one. The bike shop may have done this but if it were my wheel and I wanted to rebuild the original rather than buying new, I would replace every spoke. If you replace one at a time, you will continually find the next "weakest link" until they are all replaced. Pay the labor once and get all new spokes but new wheels would be a more cost effective choice in the long term. Be sure to have the wheels properly tensioned after getting them. Bargain wheels online can be great as long as they are properly tensioned by a good wheel man once you receive them. The tension on machine built wheels can vary widely sometimes - putting you eventually right back where you are now. Take this all with a grain of salt but I am a 230 lb rider who has been there and as a result learned to build and tension wheels.
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I appreciate all of the replies.

After the blowout I got a new rim AND new spokes. The old ones wouldn't have fit the new rim exactly. Maybe they did a lousy job building it up, but it was a reputable high end shop.

I'm guess leaning toward buying new wheel(s). I can easily afford them, but I try to buy things I need or will provide a really meaningful upgrade, and not get sucked into advertising hype and consummerism (having done so so many times in the past).

Maybe now is the time to get a generator hub.
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Originally Posted by zowie
I appreciate all of the replies.

After the blowout I got a new rim AND new spokes. The old ones wouldn't have fit the new rim exactly. Maybe they did a lousy job building it up, but it was a reputable high end shop.

I'm guess leaning toward buying new wheel(s). I can easily afford them, but I try to buy things I need or will provide a really meaningful upgrade, and not get sucked into advertising hype and consummerism (having done so so many times in the past).
Maybe now is the time to get a generator hub.
New rim AND new spokes - this is what I was supposing. Do you have any idea of the brand of the spokes?

I think, at any rate, that the LBS that built you the wheel, owes you some money back. At the very least. One way or the other, they did a lousy job, for which they should be held accountable for. I don't see any other way and no way they can talk their way out of it.
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