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grnsky 08-26-07 07:06 PM

handlebar plug technique
 
are there any tricks to getting the handlebar tape neatly tucked into the holes at the end of the bar with the plug and everything? are there superior plugs that make the difference or is there some trick where you wrap masking tape around the grip just as its at the end and then use both hand to finish it neatly. then take the tape off.

Retro Grouch 08-26-07 07:44 PM

I don't stuff handlebar tape into the end of the bar. I make an angled cut in the tape to start at the end of the bar and to end the wrapping job near the center of the handlebar.

Gordiep 08-26-07 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by grnsky (Post 5149552)
are there any tricks to getting the handlebar tape neatly tucked into the holes at the end of the bar with the plug and everything? are there superior plugs that make the difference or is there some trick where you wrap masking tape around the grip just as its at the end and then use both hand to finish it neatly. then take the tape off.

If I understand your post, it sounds like you are finishing your wraps at the handlebar ends. Traditional practice is to begin at the bar-end. The Park Tool website has a pretty good tutorial on wrapping tape.

For bar-plugs, I use Velox expandable plugs...but some guys use wine corks. There are lots of options available. As another poster mentioned, you can cut the tape flush with the bar end (this is what I do)...or, when you start your wrap, leave a half inch or so of tape hanging off the edge, and stuff it in.

The first time I wrapped my bars, I did a practice wrap with the tape backing still on. You can't pull it tight enough, but it gives you a good idea of how things will go.

jmarkley710 08-26-07 09:34 PM

Spit or water on the plug will help it slid in. Then use a hammer with a paper towel over the head of it and tap at the plug till it's all the way in. If it's thick tape it'll slide partially out overnight. Tap it in again in the morning and it'll be good to go.

tellyho 08-27-07 11:28 AM

I've never had trouble getting the plug in, but I'd definitely love suggestions as to how to get the tape to stuff in nicely. Mine look okay, but that's it. Any way to pre-crease the fold to make it sit in there all pretty?

jmarkley710 08-27-07 08:19 PM

Pre-crease it by pushing it in with a screw driver and then running it in circles pressed against the inside of the handlebars with the tape folded in. It'll help hold the tape in place. Then place the plug on the outside and rotate in the of the wrap to tighten it as your insert the plug.

urbanknight 08-28-07 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by tellyho (Post 5153523)
I've never had trouble getting the plug in, but I'd definitely love suggestions as to how to get the tape to stuff in nicely. Mine look okay, but that's it. Any way to pre-crease the fold to make it sit in there all pretty?

There's a taper obvisouly, so I take the smaller wide and fold that in first, then take the biggest part and fold it in after it. 9 out of 10 times, that pulls everything in nicely and I just shove the plug in for a moderately snug fit. The 1 time it doesn't work nicely, it still works and I ride it knowing I will try again another day.

Banzai 08-28-07 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5149810)
For bar-plugs, I use Velox expandable plugs.

Absolutely! No more end-plugs slipping out. Great accessory!

rmfnla 08-28-07 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5149810)
If I understand your post, it sounds like you are finishing your wraps at the handlebar ends. Traditional practice is to begin at the bar-end. The Park Tool website has a pretty good tutorial on wrapping tape.

Actually, traditional practice is to do it as the OP asks about.

Starting at the bar ends works better, though, because your hands are not pushing down on the tape edges, causing them to curl.

Gordiep 08-28-07 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 5162325)
Actually, traditional practice is to do it as the OP asks about.

In 15 years of riding, I've never seen a knowledgeable rider wrap from the tops. I don't want to get into a discussion of what "traditional' means, but every tutorial I've ever read has indicated to start from the bottom. It's tradition with most everyone I know, and most everyone that I ride with.

JBD 08-28-07 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5162518)
In 15 years of riding, I've never seen a knowledgeable rider wrap from the tops. I don't want to get into a discussion of what "traditional' means, but every tutorial I've ever read has indicated to start from the bottom. It's tradition with most everyone I know, and most everyone that I ride with.

My 30 yr old follis (whose tape has never (to my knowledge) been replaced) tape wrapping starts at the top and ends at the plug. (adhesive backed cloth tape if it matters)

Gordiep 08-28-07 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by JBD (Post 5163027)
My 30 yr old follis (whose tape has never (to my knowledge) been replaced) tape wrapping starts at the top and ends at the plug. (adhesive backed cloth tape if it matters)

I don't dispute that it happens, I'm just curious why somebody was sharpshooting me for word choice.

JBD 08-28-07 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5163050)
I don't dispute that it happens, I'm just curious why somebody was sharpshooting me for word choice.

if that is your question, I really have no idea, maybe the phase of the moon determines the pedantry of our fellow members :p (ie "conventional" vs "traditional" or some similar type of disagreement in word choice) other times new terms can even coined into the lexicon ala "drope teh hamer" and "guads"


or maybe it's just because most of the guys that hang around here are C&V zealots :lol:

redtires 08-28-07 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5149810)
If I understand your post, it sounds like you are finishing your wraps at the handlebar ends. Traditional practice is to begin at the bar-end. The Park Tool website has a pretty good tutorial on wrapping tape.

For bar-plugs, I use Velox expandable plugs...but some guys use wine corks. There are lots of options available. As another poster mentioned, you can cut the tape flush with the bar end (this is what I do)...or, when you start your wrap, leave a half inch or so of tape hanging off the edge, and stuff it in.

The first time I wrapped my bars, I did a practice wrap with the tape backing still on. You can't pull it tight enough, but it gives you a good idea of how things will go.

+1 on Velox. I just ordered a new set myself. Seems like a mundane part, but they really finish off a bar just right, they never fall out and almost never break. Plus, because they're rubber, they don't scratch the side of my car if I lean my bike up against it. :D Probably should have stolen the pair off the bike I sold a little while ago...but oh well.

Gordiep 08-28-07 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by redtires (Post 5163302)
+1 on Velox. I just ordered a new set myself. Seems like a mundane part, but they really finish off a bar just right, they never fall out and almost never break. Plus, because they're rubber, they don't scratch the side of my car if I lean my bike up against it. :D Probably should have stolen the pair off the bike I sold a little while ago...but oh well.

I love my Velox plugs...they were surprisingly hard to find. You're right-- they really add a nice touch to certain handlebar setups. I tried shellacking my bars for the first time, and couldn't get them to get quite right...then I found out about the Velox plugs, and there it was! I ordered mine from Velo-Orange-- what about you?

Banzai 08-28-07 05:16 PM

Velox plugs can be found quite easily at Wallingford Bicycle.

Along with Brooks saddles...but that's another thread.

Gordiep 08-28-07 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai (Post 5163495)
Velox plugs can be found quite easily at Wallingford Bicycle.

Along with Brooks saddles...but that's another thread.

Yep...I bought my B-17 from them. Nice people.

operator 08-28-07 07:10 PM

What a boring discussion. Do whatever the heck makes your handlebar tape secure.

Gordiep 08-28-07 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by operator (Post 5164228)
What a boring discussion.

As opposed to all the crucial brain-busting going on in the other forums...thanks for the useful input.

cadillacmike68 08-29-07 09:24 PM

The 35 + year old tradition is to start at the center of the bars. This is with cloth tape - since i never use anything else. The idea is to wrap it in a clockwise rotation so if you use a screw in plug in will "thread" with the direction of the tape. I use Mil-Remo plugs myself but I doubt that these can be found anymore.

I've never had the tape curl off.

rmfnla 08-30-07 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5163050)
I don't dispute that it happens, I'm just curious why somebody was sharpshooting me for word choice.

It's because "somebody" apparently has more experience that you and took the time to point out the error in calling something traditional that really isn't.

I've been riding "good" bikes for about 35 years (since high school) so trust me, you ain't seen it all. Back then all bikes were wrapped from the bar center down; that was how it was done in Italy so of course that was how we did it here.

JBD's 30-year old Follis is a good example; have you even heard of Follis?

JBD, is it the candy-apple red? I always loved that color!

Gordiep 08-30-07 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 5175935)
It's because "somebody" apparently has more experience that you and took the time to point out the error in calling something traditional that really isn't.

I've been riding "good" bikes for about 35 years (since high school) so trust me, you ain't seen it all. Back than all bikes were wrapped from the bar center down; that was how it was done in Italy so of course that was how we did it here.

JBD's 30-year old Follis is a good example; have you even heard of Follis?

JBD, is it the candy-apple red? I always loved that color!

Wow, what a jackass. Have you ever heard of that? I was trying to be helpful, and was-- you tried to act like a know-it-all snob, and did. Nice work.

I never said that "I seen it all," professsor-- you did. I love you retro guys-- can't think of a nice word for anyone that doesn't admire the same shiny junk as you. Well you sure showed me, pop-- I'm real real sorry that I tangled with such a guru.

It's traditional where I come from. In 15 years I've never seen otherwise, and that's traditional enough for me. Like most people without much brains, you attack a minor semantic point rather than making any real argument. I hope you feel better for it. I can tell from your impeccable writing that you are a real scholar, and thus would know that "traditional" is a vague term, which is why I chose it. It tends to be tied to regional or demographic practice, so I am technically correct. If you want to imitate Italian practice, go ahead...it can be 'tradition' for you to do so.

Next time engage your brain before you type, and back your ego off a bit-- I know that you probably think of yourself as a big cheese 'round here, but to me you're just a self-righteous blowhard.

Noam Zane 08-30-07 12:36 PM

Just so I don't offend anyone, I start at the brake levers and work both ways.

JBD 08-30-07 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 5175935)
It's because "somebody" apparently has more experience that you and took the time to point out the error in calling something traditional that really isn't.

I've been riding "good" bikes for about 35 years (since high school) so trust me, you ain't seen it all. Back than all bikes were wrapped from the bar center down; that was how it was done in Italy so of course that was how we did it here.

JBD's 30-year old Follis is a good example; have you even heard of Follis?

JBD, is it the candy-apple red? I always loved that color!

nope, mine is a speedy racing green :D not as fast as a hot candy apple red, but still pretty speedy :p




Originally Posted by Noam Zane (Post 5177138)
Just so I don't offend anyone, I start at the brake levers and work both ways.

Perfect! the best of both worlds!

:roflmao:

moxfyre 08-30-07 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Gordiep (Post 5149810)
If I understand your post, it sounds like you are finishing your wraps at the handlebar ends. Traditional practice is to begin at the bar-end. The Park Tool website has a pretty good tutorial on wrapping tape.

For bar-plugs, I use Velox expandable plugs...but some guys use wine corks. There are lots of options available. As another poster mentioned, you can cut the tape flush with the bar end (this is what I do)...or, when you start your wrap, leave a half inch or so of tape hanging off the edge, and stuff it in.

+1

It's much easier to begin *AT* the bar-end, and work towards the center. When I wrap handlebars, I also put a loop of upside-down electrical tape every few inches, which helps greatly in holding the tape on, particularly at the bar-end.

I agree that the expandable plugs are best at holding the tape in (you expand them with a screwdriver). Some of the cheap plastic plugs that come with tape work very well, and some work horribly and fall out easily. I've had pretty good luck with the Nashbar deluxe tape plugs!


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