mtnbk3000

i would like to build a wheel set, at this point i will only use bolt on hubs, i have two wheelsets with bolt on hubs, so my idea is to take one apart, then use the spokes and a new rim, like a sun mtx and just build it up from there? will i need new spokes, (is it the rim and the hub that determines spoke length, or just the hub?)

mtnbk3000

any suggestions for a rim besides the mtx, it will eventually go on a freeride hardtail

HillRider

In the internet spirit of not answering the question you asked, why are you so set on using bolt-on hubs? There is a reason they are either super cheap or absurdly expensive.

mtnbk3000

i am set on using them because, you must use them for my P.2, eventually these will go on the p.2, and the wheels on the P.2 will go on my xc bike.

lukeC

what the hell is a P.2?

or xc ?

FlatFender

why must you use bolt on wheels on your P2?

wethepeople

MTX are pretty burly rims, I would honestly recommend 729's.

You know having a 'bolt on hub' is as simple as installing a new axle right?

Also, you don't NEED nutted axles for horizontal drops, it just makes life easier.

HillRider

Actually a properly designed internal cam quick release (Shimano or Campy) is more secure than axle nuts. Installed correctly they provide plenty of clamping force and cannot vibrate loose.

Of course none of this applies to lightweight external cam boutique skewers.

operator

Not really. It makese things harder. Especially if you aren't running a fixed gear.

I_bRAD

For SS setups it's a pain in the ass to get the chain tension right with a QR!

I_bRAD

Not necessarily that simple depending on the hub.

tellyho

To answer the question, you will probably need new spokes. It's unlikely that your new rim will have the same ERD as your old one. And if you're rebuilding you might as well replace them anyway. Both rim and hub determine spoke length.

mtnbk3000

obviously you have not seen the dropout system on the specialized P series, if i didn't have a bolt on i would need to take of the quick release everytime i replaced the wheel

wethepeople

Speaking from personal experience, it made my life A LOT easier on my old steelhead. Which had the same drop-outs.

It is with the hubs he's talking about.

operator

Oh please.

So instead you have to remove the nuts on both sides instead of unwinding the quick release. Good job. That's gotta be easier. Not to mention you can remove axle nuts without a tool.

And how many people are running around on a Specialized P series compared to a bike with horizontal dropouts?

Thanks for playing

But isn't that what the chain tensioner is for?

JeanCoutu

One of my buddies likes to jump onto picnic tables, fly down stairs, misc bike tricks, etc. pretty good at it, calls this freeride. Well he's recently gotten Alex DX32 for his bike, because they're heavyer. He says it gives him better control this way. I'm not into that type of bike usage so I don't really get it, seems somewhat counter-intuitive to want heavier wheels. Asides from that, I'd think the boxy looks of the DX32 would compliment a P2 pretty well.

supcom

Chances are that you will need new spokes. Rims have different inner diameters depending on their profile. But, even if you found a new rim that was the same size as the old, you should use new spokes anyway to avoid early failures.

I_bRAD

True, but who wants an ugly chain tensioner when you don't technically need one!