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Old 10-24-07, 09:38 AM
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Old 10-24-07, 09:42 AM
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Hello all,

I've just taken apart most of my thinnly-columbus-tubed bicycle to and found what I had feared, slight rusting. Is there anything I can do to prevent this from worsening? I mean, I plan to go buy a can of Framesaver today, however that will not stop the spread of pre-existing rust, will it? Any advice would be much appreciated!
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Old 10-24-07, 05:56 PM
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Probably just for peace of mind

I read up on the issue after I bought my Soma. Jobst Brand, who seems to be one of the ten guys most knowledgable about bikes in the world, says its a scam, that you can't see where the rustproof is going inside your tubes anyway, there's no way to tell if you've actually coated all of the tubes and that he's never seen a bike rust out internally regardless. Grant Peterson (from Rivendell) on the other hand recommends rustproofing on all of the frames he makes. I think Sheldon Brown is in Peterson's camp. I figure its kind of like taking baby aspirin. It might not do anything in the long run but its cheap and who knows, maybe it really will save your or your frame's life. I used Boeshield T-9. Went in pretty easy, who knows if the tubes are totally covered but at least I tried. Use the BOeshield, unlike Weigle's it's also really good as chain lube.
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Old 10-24-07, 06:07 PM
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boeshield

Boeshield says it attacks rust on the can. I'm assuming that means it stops existing rust as well as prevents new rust. It seems to have stopped the slight rust inside my seat tube from getting worse. Seems to me its not the water that causes the rust, its contact with air after it gets wet. I say this because when I changed my bottom bracket, a puddle of water poured out but there was no rust at all. But when I pulled out the seatpost, my seat tube, which had no water in it at the time, was a little rusted.
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Old 10-24-07, 06:08 PM
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soma2x, I wonder the same thing, how can you tell if the whole inside of the tubing is coated? Only thing I can figure is, the airborne spray mist might fill the tubing and offer protection.

The instruction says to plug the tube on one end and spray it in, but if you put in that much protectant, seems you might need a whole can per tube.

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Old 10-24-07, 08:13 PM
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there's an easy way to test this: get a length of cheap pipe (galvanized, or whatever) about the same length as a bike tube. plug one end, mask the other to match frame holes, if need be, spray and rotate per directions, remove plug and check it. Or if you're really core you could cut it in half to really inspect the coverage.
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Old 10-25-07, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by soma2x View Post
Jobst Brand, who seems to be one of the ten guys most knowledgable about bikes in the world, says its a scam.....
JB may have more theories about bikes than anyone in the world, but I'll take Sheldon's practical experience and expertise over JB's "theories" any day....

Wrenching on bikes for 40+ years > theorizing about bikes for eternity.
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Old 10-25-07, 07:11 AM
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I have used a product called Rust Cure seems to work pretty good.
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Old 10-25-07, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by soma2x View Post
I read up on the issue after I bought my Soma. Jobst Brand, who seems to be one of the ten guys most knowledgable about bikes in the world, says its a scam, that you can't see where the rustproof is going inside your tubes anyway, there's no way to tell if you've actually coated all of the tubes and that he's never seen a bike rust out internally regardless. Grant Peterson (from Rivendell) on the other hand recommends rustproofing on all of the frames he makes. I think Sheldon Brown is in Peterson's camp. I figure its kind of like taking baby aspirin. It might not do anything in the long run but its cheap and who knows, maybe it really will save your or your frame's life. I used Boeshield T-9. Went in pretty easy, who knows if the tubes are totally covered but at least I tried. Use the BOeshield, unlike Weigle's it's also really good as chain lube.
WTF!!!! FFS, I can show him one if he wants (not mine)! Brandt is probably too busy internally looking up his own blurter IMO.
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Old 10-29-07, 09:31 AM
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I am riding a bike at the moment with no paint, steel frame. It has been like that for about 4 months, and lives in a damp basement, no rust. Boeshield was sprayed on after removing the paint. I ride it every day rain or shine. Just a little T9 feedback
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