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kenhill3 11-14-07 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5633051)
Kenhill, that's Newton-Meters. N-M. Nm is a terribly small measure of distance.

Joshua-

Thanks for correction. I glossed right over that distinction. I don't believe there is any need in bike mechanics to measure in nanometers, joules, avogadro's number, any of that silly scientific stuff!

Joshua A.C. New 11-15-07 09:30 AM

Yeah. I'm still suspicious when my caliper tells me a part is sized in non-whole millimeters.

Joules *are* useful. It's the amount of power over time! Watts/seconds! It's what biking's all about! (Not that I don't have to look that up every time it comes up...)

And Avogadro's Number describes the amount of snottiness my wife experiences when she goes in the bike shop downtown!

See? There's all sort of science things in bikes!

artemidorus 11-15-07 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5633051)
Kenhill, that's Newton-Meters. N-M. Nm is a terribly small measure of distance.

Sorry to be pedantic, but Nm is correct, NM is wrong.

Joshua A.C. New 11-15-07 07:51 PM

Huh! Look at that! We're all wrong! N·m or N m. Space or dot, lower-case "m". Google also has a lot of N-m. In any event, Nm is "nanometer".

Wikipedia, if I may paraphrase, says "Newton-meter something something joule something." So now I know better!

artemidorus 11-15-07 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5641435)
Huh! Look at that! We're all wrong! N·m or N m. Space or dot, lower-case "m". Google also has a lot of N-m. In any event, Nm is "nanometer".

Wikipedia, if I may paraphrase, says "Newton-meter something something joule something." So now I know better!

No, "nm" is nanometer. That is why the dot or space in "Nm" is unnecessary.

Joshua A.C. New 11-16-07 10:12 AM

Sum*****! You're right!

From now on, I'm using N m for all my measurements!

rydaddy 11-16-07 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5637700)
Joules *are* useful. It's the amount of power over time! Watts/seconds! It's what biking's all about! (Not that I don't have to look that up every time it comes up...)

Since we are getting all scientific I will point out that a Watt is a Joule/Second.

Power = Energy/Time

Joshua A.C. New 11-16-07 11:43 AM

Your mom's all scientific.

rydaddy 11-16-07 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5637700)
Joules *are* useful. It's the amount of power over time! Watts/seconds

Wrong! A Joule is a unit of energy.


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5637700)
Watts/seconds

Wrong again! Energy/Time is Power (ie Joule/Sec = Watts).

Learn about it and then come at me with something better than a 'yo momma' joke. :rolleyes:

kenhill3 11-16-07 02:40 PM

I think I'll leave and let the 'scientists' finish this thread.

graeme 11-17-07 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. New (Post 5633051)
Kenhill, that's Newton-Meters. N-M. Nm is a terribly small measure of distance.

Nm is newton metres
nm is nanometres
A lower case for a proper noun for a unit spelt out eg newton, joule , upper case for N, J


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