Braze-on front derailleur alignment
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Braze-on front derailleur alignment
I'm having issues getting good alignment out of my front derailleur (triple, braze-on).
It's a low-end Shimano (R443), and the rear/tail of the cage is the closest to the chainrings. I'm used to the top of the derailleur being closer to the chainrings. As a result, I have to raise the derailleur ridiculously high so that the back of the cage doesn't rub the chainring when I'm on the middle chainring. With such a gap between the top of the chainring and the front part of the derailleur, shifting is pretty poor.
Is this a problem with the derailleur or my braze-on? Any way to fix it?
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It's a low-end Shimano (R443), and the rear/tail of the cage is the closest to the chainrings. I'm used to the top of the derailleur being closer to the chainrings. As a result, I have to raise the derailleur ridiculously high so that the back of the cage doesn't rub the chainring when I'm on the middle chainring. With such a gap between the top of the chainring and the front part of the derailleur, shifting is pretty poor.
Is this a problem with the derailleur or my braze-on? Any way to fix it?
thx.
Last edited by gazer; 11-17-07 at 02:48 AM.
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It isn't hard to bend the braze-on to correct for a minor mis-adjustment like that.
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I'm not familiar with that model fd but if it's intended for MTB or Hybrid use with relatively small chainrings (say 44/34/24) and you are using it with a road crank (52/42/30) then the cage curvature will be too sharp to match the large chainring and you will have to space it too far away as you have done.
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You are right HillRider but not many Bike Fridays are set up for running small chainrings and that mech is designed for road triples.
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830605977.PDF
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830605977.PDF
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Hmm, I'm a little hesitant to try that - I'd need to rotate the braze-on in the plane of the picture, and I'd be fighting the weld there (as opposed to bending it around the seat tube). No?
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You are right HillRider but not many Bike Fridays are set up for running small chainrings and that mech is designed for road triples.
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830605977.PDF
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830605977.PDF
Break out the Dremel. Another possibility is to shim the braze-on tab at the lower front edge where the the fd bolts to it to tilt the tail away from the chainring.
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Still, I like the idea of dremelling the derailleur... Glad it's not Dura-Ace.
Thanks.
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I expect the braze-on/front mech got tweaked in transit. It is less likely that Bike Friday brazed it in the wrong position.
It is your call and I can't see the problem in the metal, so suit yourself regarding a repair but I've cold-set front braze-ons previously without hassles.
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Iv'e found these rules/tricks help on almost any front derailleur: The outer plate shoud be parallel with the chainring, ( look down). The bottom of the outer plate should clear the outer chainring 2 to 3 mm, (look from side). If you can't shift well to the outer without overshift- try bending the outer plate, with a small crescent, so that the bottom of the plate is slightly inboard of the top,(that helps keep the chain from shifting off and you my need to grip more than one spot), and/or bend the front tip of the inner plate toward the chain slightly
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Yeah, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather bend the cage than the mount.
IMO the best solution is the proper dérailleur.
IMO the best solution is the proper dérailleur.
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From the look of the photo the trailing edge of the dérailleur cage is closer to the big ring than the front of the cage by several mm's. Is this correct? For a start I'd lower the dérailleur until the rear cage is about 1mm above the chain ring - looks like it's 5mm above right now. If you still have shifting issues, remove the dérailleur and using a large crescent wrench, tweak the brazeon a little. Shouldn't hurt anything if the brazing is sound. Worse thing that can happen is the hanger cheeses off which will be no loss - you can go with a clamp on.