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Old 02-21-08, 09:23 AM   #1
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My 1st build

I just picked up a 1998 Pinarello cross steel frame. Freshly painted with a fork and stem. I was hoping to make this my 1st attempt at building and make it more of a road bike/commuter instead of a full blown cross bike. I was hoping to find a decent book on bike building but have no luck so far. I already have the "Bicycling magazine book of bicycle repair" and "Zinn and the art of road bike maintanance" Are there any better bikes to help me out that any of you know of. I'm not having much luck searching the web.

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I already have the "Bicycling magazine book of bicycle repair" and "Zinn and the art of road bike maintanance" Are there any better bikes to help me out that any of you know of.
In a word: No.
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You have two of the better repair manuals. Are you looking for a repair/installation manual or help with selecting components?

It seems the headset has been installed and the steerer already cut and fitted with the stem. I hope the bar height turns out to be where you want it as there isn't a lot of adjustment left judging by the photo.

If you have a good LBS that you trust, they could help with selecting the other components even if you install them. BTW, that frame probably has 126 mm dropouts (unless it's already been cold set to 130 mm) so you will have to use 7-speed components, cold set the frame to 130 mm or force the wider hub into the dropouts to use 8/9/10-speed stuff.

I'm interested in your nom-de-forum. Are you an LEO and is Kimber dept issue or personal purchase?
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sweet looking frame.
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^^^I agree. But,this website has a few tricks also. http://www.parktool.com/repair/

What kind of brakes are you planning to use?

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^^^I agree. But,this website has a few tricks also. http://www.parktool.com/repair/
I'd recommend the Park Tool site over Zinn's and way, way over the Bicycling Magazine book.
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BTW, that frame probably has 126 mm dropouts (unless it's already been cold set to 130 mm) so you will have to use 7-speed components, cold set the frame to 130 mm or force the wider hub into the dropouts to use 8/9/10-speed stuff.
Actually, a 1998 is probably already 130. Even my 95 Bianchi was 8 speed.
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I personally use a combination of Shimano's website (they have good install sheets), parktool.com, and the mighty bikeforums.
What are you planning on putting on this ride?
I know you didn't ask, but some things to consider...
bottom bracket...is it italian thread? you going with shimano or campy? you will need to consider tools depending on brand that you go with.
You can probably go to 9/10speed without coldsetting the frame. It'll be a tight fit but it should work.
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Thanks for the help you guys

I have campy protons (have some on my roadie and love them) enroute for the wheelset. I'm 6'2" and have 3000 miles on the protons and their still as true as the day they left the factory. I just ordered Veloce components including an ultra torque compact crank also. Italian threading for sure. Not sure what coldsetting is but my neighbor down the street said 10 speed would work so thats what I ordered.

I know I'll need cantilever brakes. Hadnt decided yet what brand. Gonna be campy everywhere I can get away with it. My road Pinarello is Chorus & Record so I want to stay with what I'm familiar with. I dont have anything against shimano but I think its kind sacraligeous to put japanese components on an italian bike. Again nothing against shimano I know its fine equipment, just my old fashioned thoughts. I am in no way an expert.

My screen name means that yes im an LEO and Kimber was my choice of carry (self purchased) I have since bought a Nighthawk Custom 1911 .45 for carry but still love both of my Kimbers.

Sorry I took so long to say thanks to you who have helped, Im away with the family in the Wisconsin Dells and our 1st hotel didnt have wireless.
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Thanks for the help you guys

I have campy protons (have some on my roadie and love them) enroute for the wheelset. I'm 6'2" and have 3000 miles on the protons and their still as true as the day they left the factory. I just ordered Veloce components including an ultra torque compact crank also. Italian threading for sure. Not sure what coldsetting is but my neighbor down the street said 10 speed would work so thats what I ordered.

I know I'll need cantilever brakes. Hadnt decided yet what brand. Gonna be campy everywhere I can get away with it. My road Pinarello is Chorus & Record so I want to stay with what I'm familiar with. I dont have anything against shimano but I think its kind sacraligeous to put japanese components on an italian bike. Again nothing against shimano I know its fine equipment, just my old fashioned thoughts. I am in no way an expert.

My screen name means that yes im an LEO and Kimber was my choice of carry (self purchased) I have since bought a Nighthawk Custom 1911 .45 for carry but still love both of my Kimbers.

Sorry I took so long to say thanks to you who have helped, Im away with the family in the Wisconsin Dells and our 1st hotel didnt have wireless.
Kimber, it sounds like a great project. Regarding books and bike building, there are dozens of individual tasks involved. Most repair manuals are written to help you know how to perform a given task correctly, rather than to help you put a sequence of them into a logical order. I don't know of a book that fulfils this latter need.

Can Campy Ergo levers pull the right amount of cable for cantilever brakes? I'm not saying they can or can't, but it's the only thing in your plan that raises a question in my mind.

Sounds like fun!

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" Can Campy Ergo levers pull the right amount of cable for cantilever brakes? I'm not saying they can or can't, but it's the only thing in your plan that raises a question in my mind ".

From what Ive managed to find. The newer side pull cantilever brakes (V style) wont work with brifters cause they cant pull enough cable. Ive seen a few cantilever (standard type) advertised as working with standard road brifters so thats what I'll end up going with I think.
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I just reread your original post and realized the frame is a '98 vintage so the dropouts should be spaced 130 mm and will accept any 8, 9 or 10-speed hubs. For some reason I thought it said '88. Got to pay more attention.

"Cold Setting" means bending a narrower frame to fit a wider hub but you won't have to worry about that.

Most cantilever brakes work fine with road levers. "V-brakes" require more cable pull and either dedicated road levers or Travel Agent cable pull adapters to work with regular road levers.

BTW, I have a Stainless Target II in 9 I use in a summer league. I'm very pleased with it too. Good choice.
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Kimber,

I can sketch out an "order of operations" if that's your quandary. I've assembled four of my own bikes. I'd start with the headset/fork installation. When it's perfect including bearing adjustment, do the bottom bracket and chainset. I leave the pedals for last. Then the front and rear derailleurs and brake calipers. Follow with seatpost and saddle with initial adjustment. then assemble the stem, bars, and brifters and align then torque the brifters. Install the stem into the fork tube (here I'm assuming a quill stem, the ordr is a bit different depending on the clamp design and whether it's a quill or threadless system. Assuming your wheels are already rebuilt or in any case ready to install, put them on and start installing and connecitng the cables. Put on the chain and set the length, then adjust the gears, cables, and brakes. Do a final position setting on the saddle and 'bars, and tape the bars. I tend to only tape enough to secure the cables until I am totally confident in the bar/lever adjustment.

I hope this helps. I can't say it's right in any absolute sense, it's just what I usually do.

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I just picked up a 1998 Pinarello cross steel frame. Freshly painted with a fork and stem. I was hoping to make this my 1st attempt at building and make it more of a road bike/commuter instead of a full blown cross bike. I was hoping to find a decent book on bike building but have no luck so far. I already have the "Bicycling magazine book of bicycle repair" and "Zinn and the art of road bike maintanance" Are there any better bikes to help me out that any of you know of. I'm not having much luck searching the web.

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Ew, that fork has got to go. Doesn't deserve to be on a pinarello.
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" Ew, that fork has got to go. Doesn't deserve to be on a pinarello. "


Kinda my thought too, but one thing at a time
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