Help me build my Apollo Prestige XL frameset into a complete bike
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Help me build my Apollo Prestige XL frameset into a complete bike
Hey all
I just got a 67cm Apollo Prestige XL and haven't been able to find specs on it at all. I plan to build it up into a light touring/commuting bike but have only ever bought off the shelf or pre-built custom bikes. How do I determine seat tube and steer tube diameter? Can sidepull brakes work with 1"- 1.5" tires?
I'd prefer to use V-brakes but there are only mounts for sidepulls on this frame/fork.
Are Brooks saddles compatible with the old style seat posts? The kind with the non-integrated clamp that was more common in the 80s and earlier (can you tell this isn't my area of expertise?)
Is it going to be possible to build this frame with a minimum of expense and letting other people put their grubby mitts all over it?
I just got a 67cm Apollo Prestige XL and haven't been able to find specs on it at all. I plan to build it up into a light touring/commuting bike but have only ever bought off the shelf or pre-built custom bikes. How do I determine seat tube and steer tube diameter? Can sidepull brakes work with 1"- 1.5" tires?
I'd prefer to use V-brakes but there are only mounts for sidepulls on this frame/fork.
Are Brooks saddles compatible with the old style seat posts? The kind with the non-integrated clamp that was more common in the 80s and earlier (can you tell this isn't my area of expertise?)
Is it going to be possible to build this frame with a minimum of expense and letting other people put their grubby mitts all over it?
07-04-08, 07:55 PM
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67 cm!! Wow, XL is an understatement!
Any idea what year the frame was made and what's the material of construction?
Seat tube diameter is either 1-1/8" (28.6 mm), 1-1/4" (31.8 mm) or 1-3/8"(35.9 mm) so a caliper should be quickly able to tell you which one. Or wrap a strip of paper around the tube and make a mark where it overlaps. Divide the distance between one end and the mark by Pi (3.1416) to get the diameter.
The fork steerer diameter is most likely a 1" or 1-1/8" but requires a measurement to determine which you need.
I recommend a trip to a bike shop to do the measurements and see what other dimensions you need to know to build this up.
Frankly, based on the questions you've asked it doesn't sound like you have the expertise or background to handle the project yourself.
Any idea what year the frame was made and what's the material of construction?
Seat tube diameter is either 1-1/8" (28.6 mm), 1-1/4" (31.8 mm) or 1-3/8"(35.9 mm) so a caliper should be quickly able to tell you which one. Or wrap a strip of paper around the tube and make a mark where it overlaps. Divide the distance between one end and the mark by Pi (3.1416) to get the diameter.
The fork steerer diameter is most likely a 1" or 1-1/8" but requires a measurement to determine which you need.
I recommend a trip to a bike shop to do the measurements and see what other dimensions you need to know to build this up.
Frankly, based on the questions you've asked it doesn't sound like you have the expertise or background to handle the project yourself.
07-04-08, 10:20 PM
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67 cm!! Wow, XL is an understatement!
Any idea what year the frame was made and what's the material of construction?
Seat tube diameter is either 1-1/8" (28.6 mm), 1-1/4" (31.8 mm) or 1-3/8"(35.9 mm) so a caliper should be quickly able to tell you which one. Or wrap a strip of paper around the tube and make a mark where it overlaps. Divide the distance between one end and the mark by Pi (3.1416) to get the diameter.
The fork steerer diameter is most likely a 1" or 1-1/8" but requires a measurement to determine which you need.
I recommend a trip to a bike shop to do the measurements and see what other dimensions you need to know to build this up.
Frankly, based on the questions you've asked it doesn't sound like you have the expertise or background to handle the project yourself.
Any idea what year the frame was made and what's the material of construction?
Seat tube diameter is either 1-1/8" (28.6 mm), 1-1/4" (31.8 mm) or 1-3/8"(35.9 mm) so a caliper should be quickly able to tell you which one. Or wrap a strip of paper around the tube and make a mark where it overlaps. Divide the distance between one end and the mark by Pi (3.1416) to get the diameter.
The fork steerer diameter is most likely a 1" or 1-1/8" but requires a measurement to determine which you need.
I recommend a trip to a bike shop to do the measurements and see what other dimensions you need to know to build this up.
Frankly, based on the questions you've asked it doesn't sound like you have the expertise or background to handle the project yourself.
Funny I tried to put my 27.2mm seat post in the seat tube and it was too big! That's odd. Well anyways thanks for confirming my suspicions that I should go to a shop for advice if nothing else.
Fortunately, there's just such a place nearby that allows people to go and rent tools as well as get advice etc. Yay. I bet you I can build this bike in a few hours if I get all the parts together. Just going to need a quick visit to the LBS for some caliper action
Oh yeah and it's a chromoly frame, circa 1980...haven't ridden on one of those since the ol' days when my mom lent me her "ten speed", lol.
07-05-08, 07:40 AM
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If it's a Cr-Mo frame and c1980, the seat tube is almost certainly 1-1/8" (28.6mm) and the headtube/fork require a 1" headset. I expect the bottom bracket threading is "English". The dropout spacing is likely to be 120 mm (possibly 126 mm if the frame is mid-80's) so you will have to spread it to 130 mm to accept any current 8,9 or 10-speed rear hub.
Seatposts come in a huge range of diameters in 0.2 mm increments so your frame could take a 27.0 or even 26.8 mm. I have an '85 Bridgestone that takes a 27.0 and a newer Co-Motion that uses a 26.8.
V-brake mounting is not cost effective as you would have to have the mounting studs brazed on and the frame repainted.
If you have a bike co-op nearby, by all means take advantage of their help and tool inventory. That's a very fast and effective way to learn bike mechanics.
Seatposts come in a huge range of diameters in 0.2 mm increments so your frame could take a 27.0 or even 26.8 mm. I have an '85 Bridgestone that takes a 27.0 and a newer Co-Motion that uses a 26.8.
V-brake mounting is not cost effective as you would have to have the mounting studs brazed on and the frame repainted.
If you have a bike co-op nearby, by all means take advantage of their help and tool inventory. That's a very fast and effective way to learn bike mechanics.
