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Old 07-04-08, 04:21 PM
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Rear Derailleur mounting bolt thread?

I'm in the process of building up a frame and the rear derailleur won't thread on. This is a new one on me; do these things come with different threads? The derailleur is a Shimano 105 and the frame is a Softride.

Of course, my lbs is closed until Monday. I'll be taking it into them then if I can't figure this out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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All of the rear derailleurs and frame dropouts I've ever worked on are threaded M10x1.0 mm.
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Try running the derailleur mounting bolt through the hanger from the wrong side. If the starting threads have been buggered, that might be enough to chase them out.
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I had the exact same thought last night, so I pulled the wheel and tried it. The bolt failed to engage the threads. I'm going to stop while I'm ahead and let the bike shop handle this one.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
All of the rear derailleurs and frame dropouts I've ever worked on are threaded M10x1.0 mm.
Not always, I couldn't get an old Campagnolo Gran Sport RD into my '83 Dawes Galaxy, although an '07 Tiagra worked fine
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Originally Posted by 04jtb
Not always, I couldn't get an old Campagnolo Gran Sport RD into my '83 Dawes Galaxy, although an '07 Tiagra worked fine
As I said, all of the ones I've ever come across were M10x1.0. I have no idea what Campy used decades ago but they tended to do their own thing and still do.
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Campy uses M10x26 which is VERY close to 10x1.0. Close enough that you can, obviously, screw a Campy derailleur into a non-Campy hanger and vice-versa. Anything with a longer run of threads would be a problem.
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If the RD won't thread on, you might have a damaged 1st thread on the mounting bolt. Common problem if the derailleur has been dropped. Rounded off threads won't go into the hanger. Inspect the threads carefully under a magnifying glass.
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
If the RD won't thread on, you might have a damaged 1st thread on the mounting bolt. Common problem if the derailleur has been dropped. Rounded off threads won't go into the hanger. Inspect the threads carefully under a magnifying glass.
+1. Also, sloppy manufacuturing can leave a burr. You might be able to use a file and remove an offending burr from the treads.
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There's also a slight risk to damaging the threads in the dropout hanger. So to test whether you've fixed the problem with bad threads on the derailleur bolt, get a 10x1mm nut from HomeDepot/Lowes/OSH, etc. These are used in lighting fixtures; typically for holding the glass-domes onto the lights. Test the threading with this nut and when it goes on smoothly, you can install the derailleur without worry.
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Since the bike shop wouldn't be able to even look at it until next week, I went to the local hardware store and picked up a M10x1.0 tap and solved the problem for $6.79.

Been working the bugs out of the build since then.
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Would had done something like that from day#1. As a matter of principle, not gonna see the doctor to put on a bandaid.
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