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Old 09-11-08, 07:57 AM
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Best time to buy Dura Ace

Sorry if this topic has already been discussed before - I searched the forum before posting and nothing turned up.

I have a set of a FSA Gossamer compact crank on my bike that I'd like to upgrade to Dura Ace 7800 Hollotech II Double Cranks. At $226, ChainReactionCycles has the price price on the DA crank, but this still seems pretty steep to me considering the 7800 model is 2 years old.

I know DA has a solid reputation, and I don't mind paying for quality. But I just want to know if now is the best time to buy DA 7800, or if prices will slashed soon due to the release of DA7900.

Please share your comments/ideas.

Thanks

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Old 09-11-08, 09:34 AM
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you never know when prices will change although it will definilty be after the new stuff is in all of the stores. ask you self how much you need a new crank. if you need it then having it now will be worth more than saving the money. if you don't need it then waiting and possibly saving money might be what you want to do. its more of a personal choice.
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Why DA specifically? If price is an issue then buy Ultegra or 105.

If you simply must have the very very best, then ignore the price and buy it.
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Crococile, DMF - you guys are both right.

Yes, dura-ace is most likely unnecessary, especially since I don't race, but I can't help falling in love with shiny bling bling

I want the best, but since the 7900 is clearly out of my budget, I will go with the 7800. But before I make my decision I just want to be sure that after the 7900 DA hits most stores, 7800 won't drop dramatically in value. If that's the case then I will wait...

I used to build PCs as a hobby - and one time I lost considerable money on a purchase of high-end video cards. I had just bought two Geforce 8800 640mb cards for $350 each when nvidia released the 8800gt (which were faster, cheaper cards) at $200 each. It's the reason I don't buy computer parts anymore...

Like most people, I want quality gear that will last a while and doesn't become obsolete over night, and from reading your posts, I am convinced that my situation with the computers will not be repeated.

Please share your thoughts.
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I think the best time to buy DA is right after you've won the lottery and have cash to throw away. And even then it's not worth it.
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There isn't usually the amount of price drop in discontinued bicycle parts as there is in discontinued computer parts.

There isn't much in this world that drops in price like discontinued computer parts.
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Considering the prices I see USED Dura Ace Stuff go for on ebay, I don't know that you will save enough waiting for it to make it worth the wait.

www.totalcycling.com has really good prices on Dura-Ace, I ordered my Campy set from them, while they dont communicate well, the stuff got here FAST and it was real cheap.
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bike parts don't really become obsolete like computers. DA stuff isn't durable either if you want durable go with 105 or ultegra.

This is just a way for shimano to sell more high end bike stuff. Its called Planned Obsolescence. here is the definition from wikipedia.
Planned obsolescence (also built-in obsolescence[1] in the United Kingdom) is the process of a product becoming obsolete and/or non-functional after a certain period or amount of use in a way that is planned or designed by the manufacturer.[1] Planned obsolescence has potential benefits for a producer because the product fails and the consumer is under pressure to purchase again, whether from the same manufacturer (a replacement part or a newer model), or from a competitor which might also rely on planned obsolescence.[1] The purpose of planned obsolescence is to hide the real cost per use from the consumer, and charge a higher price than they would otherwise be willing to pay.

don't buy into the hype. there is no reason to waste money On DA **** unless you race bikes or like to waste money. Why do you ride bikes to show off how much money you have?
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Check this out:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=464389

Maybe that FSA isn't so bad after all...
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Originally Posted by mrhedges View Post
bike parts don't really become obsolete like computers. DA stuff isn't durable either if you want durable go with 105 or ultegra.
I'm afraid you are off-base on that statement. With the possible exception of the cassette D-A is equal or more durable than Ultegra or 105. If you think it's not worth the extra money I can't argue with you, but when compared to the other Shimano groups D-A as a group is as durable as it gets.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
there isn't much in this world that drops in price like discontinued computer parts.
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Originally Posted by mrhedges View Post
DA stuff isn't durable either if you want durable go with 105 or ultegra.
I heard that in the 7700 series, the DA bottom bracket weren't as durable as the Ultegra's. However the problem has been addressed in the 7800 series. And if the DAs are really bad as you say, then why does Shimano back them with a 3 year warranty instead of the 1 year on Ultegras?

Originally Posted by mrhedges View Post
there is no reason to waste money On DA **** unless you race bikes or like to waste money. Why do you ride bikes to show off how much money you have?
No I am not buying DA to show off. I'm just someone who likes to have nice things. I simply want a reliable crank that I can use and enjoy for many years. Road**************** played a major factor in my decision. The reviews speak for themselves:
http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/dr...3_2491crx.aspx
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Originally Posted by Rogue Leader View Post
Considering the prices I see USED Dura Ace Stuff go for on ebay, I don't know that you will save enough waiting for it to make it worth the wait.
That's what I was thinking too. Thanks for the affirmation.
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Originally Posted by beetz12 View Post
I heard that in the 7700 series, the DA bottom bracket weren't as durable as the Ultegra's.[/url]
Actually the D-A bottom bracket is one of the best ever built and more durable than other Octalink
BB's. The reason many people don't like them is because they require some maintenance and adjustment skills.
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Originally Posted by rmfnla View Post
Check this out:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=464389

Maybe that FSA isn't so bad after all...
So someone destroys his DA ... it doesn't convince me it's a bad product.

I haven't heard of many people breaking their DAs. In all likelihood, I believe this was a rare exception.

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Originally Posted by tellyho View Post
I think the best time to buy DA is right after you've won the lottery and have cash to throw away. And even then it's not worth it.
That sounds like a subjective comment.

Please support your position with evidence and facts.
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Originally Posted by al1943 View Post
actually the d-a bottom bracket is one of the best ever built and more durable than other octalink bb's. The reason many people don't like them is because they require some maintenance and adjustment skills.
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Originally Posted by beetz12 View Post
That sounds like a subjective comment.

Please support your position with evidence and facts.
Sorta like this?

I heard that in the 7700 series, the DA bottom bracket weren't as durable...
While I generally agree with your sentiment, tellyho's post would be better described as hyperbole.
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Originally Posted by beetz12 View Post
So someone destroys his DA ... it doesn't convince me it's a bad product.

I haven't heard of many people breaking their DAs. In all likelihood, I believe this was a rare exception.
You are probably right, and that poster is admittedly a big boy.

To really answer your question I would check out fleabay; in spite of the many horror stories I've heard I have found some great deals there and I've unloaded many parts I did not need.
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in spite of the many horror stories I've heard I have found some great deals there and I've unloaded many parts I did not need.
No doubt. Someone once told me he bought his Dura Ace 7703 Triple Crank, BB, and Ultegra F Derailleur on ebay for $189. I wish I had his luck.
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A full moon is when i buy Shimano. An eclipse is time to buy Campagnolo.
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A full moon is when i buy Shimano. An eclipse is time to buy Campagnolo.
so which occurs more often?
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so which occurs more often?
Full moons happen every month. Eclipses are far rarer, which is fortunate since Campy is so expensive!
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Originally Posted by beetz12 View Post
but I can't help falling in love with shiny bling bling


Please share your thoughts.
OK, seeing as you want me to share my thoughts. Shiny and Shimano in the same sentence is an oxymoron. If you want bling buy Campy. Good luck on the crank.
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NOW would be the best time to buy Dura Ace. Just about every bike component mfg. has announced 17 to 34% price increases for 2009. Take your pick of reasons: high energy costs, weak US dollar, materials cost increases .......
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