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ultraman6970 11-20-08 11:09 PM

bb7 weak
 
HI...

Campagnolo veloce flat bar levers combined with BB7 road disc calipers and disc brakes. For some reason they feel weak. I dont getthe power i was expecting. I had a set of mtb caliper just in case it was an issue with the cable travel and i have the same problem.

Some idea what can be wrong beside probably comming back to v brakes?

Thanks.

Severian 11-20-08 11:45 PM

Probably a setup problem. Your pads may not be close enough to the rotor/misaligned AND you're not pulling enough cable.

une_vitesse 11-20-08 11:48 PM

maybe your brakes need some braking or bedding in. first, remove the wheels, clean the rotors with some good no residue cleaner (white lightning clean streak is the best IMO), install the wheels, pour clean water on the rotors and bed your brakes in. ride around and use your brakes as much as you can for 15 mins. they'll squeal like pigs, but once you're done, you should be set.
i'm assuming your brake levers are direct-pull brake compatible.

LarDasse74 11-21-08 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by une_vitesse (Post 7891425)
maybe your brakes need some braking or bedding in. first, remove the wheels, clean the rotors with some good no residue cleaner (white lightning clean streak is the best IMO), install the wheels, pour clean water on the rotors and bed your brakes in. ride around and use your brakes as much as you can for 15 mins. they'll squeal like pigs, but once you're done, you should be set.
i'm assuming your brake levers are direct-pull brake compatible.

If you do indeed have the BB& ROAD calipers then it is important that your levers are not direct pull compatible... using direct-pull compatible brake levers will make you brakes feel wooden and severely cut down on stopping power. BB7 ROAD calipers were desinged to be used with road levers, or other short-pull levers like cantilever compatible style.

Glynis27 11-21-08 11:44 AM

My BB7s took almost 3 weeks to get to work. I was almost thinking of sending them back, but they finally got broken in when I got stuck in a huge rainstorm while out on the trails. They got full of mud and water and then suddenly the next day they worked perfectly! I had tried EVERYTHING to get them to work. They have been perfect ever since.

une_vitesse 11-21-08 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by LarDasse74 (Post 7892336)
If you do indeed have the BB& ROAD calipers then it is important that your levers are not direct pull compatible... using direct-pull compatible brake levers will make you brakes feel wooden and severely cut down on stopping power. BB7 ROAD calipers were desinged to be used with road levers, or other short-pull levers like cantilever compatible style.

my mistake, i didn't read the part where you had bb7 road calipers. poster is right, you must have short pull, or road brake compatible levers. but the bedding in process still stands.

Severian 11-24-08 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Glynis27 (Post 7893521)
My BB7s took almost 3 weeks to get to work. I was almost thinking of sending them back, but they finally got broken in when I got stuck in a huge rainstorm while out on the trails. They got full of mud and water and then suddenly the next day they worked perfectly! I had tried EVERYTHING to get them to work. They have been perfect ever since.


This may be too late... but define "everything"

My standard op in my shop is to buff the rotors and pads with, get this, skateboard grip tape. Wash the rotors in Dawn. Remount everything and go ride out the brakes in my parking lot until they bed in.

steveknight 11-25-08 12:13 AM

or go down a few steep hills and ride your brakes.
to get the pads close without rubbing a lot of times you need to true the rotors. I find even new they tend to be out of round.

une_vitesse 11-25-08 01:18 AM

this might be interesting to y'all:
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedintheory.shtml

nitropowered 11-25-08 08:08 AM

I believe Veloce flat bar levers came in two versions. A road caliper version and a v-brake version. Make sure you match up your brakes with the correct lever version you have.

Glynis27 11-25-08 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Severian (Post 7913286)
This may be too late... but define "everything"

My standard op in my shop is to buff the rotors and pads with, get this, skateboard grip tape. Wash the rotors in Dawn. Remount everything and go ride out the brakes in my parking lot until they bed in.

I scuffed the rotors with a scotchbrite pad and soap, then tried sandpaper followed by alcohol. Remounted the brakes, scuffed the pads, realigned caliper x100. None of that helped even slightly.

My brakes are perfect now though.

ultraman6970 11-25-08 10:30 AM

THanks for the replies...

Well so far i have both bb7 versions, road and Mtb... same problem with both versions. Looks like the campy veloce flat bars work with v brakes long pull maybe?

I havent done a single thing as many of you state, wash and sand the discs and pads. I'll try that i guess :)

Thanks again :)

Glynis27 11-25-08 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by ultraman6970 (Post 7914968)
I havent done a single thing as many of you state, wash and sand the discs and pads. I'll try that i guess :)

BB7s are REALLY awesome once you get them to work right. It will be totally worth it once they get broken in. Don't give up!


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