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Old 01-02-09, 09:05 PM
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braking without brakes

any suggestions/creative ideas on how to brake if your brakes are not functional? I had to dump my bike (and myself) recently because I didn't perform my ABCs and someone undid the noodles on my bike with V-brakes!
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Old 01-02-09, 09:09 PM
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I usually squeeze my brakes by habit before taking off.
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Old 01-02-09, 09:16 PM
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yes,that's the B part of the ABC's .
I'm asking in general because I've heard disasterous stories like cable heads snapping off the rest of the cable and whatnot. Prevention is of course always the best approach!
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Originally Posted by antchen View Post
yes,that's the B part of the ABC's .
I'm asking in general because I've heard disasterous stories like cable heads snapping off the rest of the cable and whatnot. Prevention is of course always the best approach!
You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than having both cables fail at the same time.
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Old 01-02-09, 09:19 PM
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Stick yer foot in between the rear wheel and the seat tube.
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Old 01-02-09, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by roadfix View Post
You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than having both cables fail at the same time.
thanks for your helpful posts.
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Old 01-02-09, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by antchen View Post
thanks for your helpful posts.
A visual inspection before each ride can be helpful. Do you really expect both cables to fail at the same time?
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Old 01-02-09, 09:26 PM
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You can:
1. take your foot and swing it above the rear wheel behind the brake and put pressure on the top of the tire.

2. put a foot on top of the front tire in front of the front brake.

3. Grab the side of your brake and torque it against the rim.

4. carefully slide onto your top tube and drag your feet on the ground.

5. put your right foot on the left pedal or left foot on the right pedal and couterbalance on the bike as you drag your outboard foot on the ground.

6. Stand on your chainstays and use the side of your shoes to contact the tire/rim.

7. use your foot to jam one side of the rear brake against the rim.

Or my favorite...
8. Take your pump and jam it into the spokes of your front wheel.

-J
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Old 01-02-09, 10:15 PM
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Jam a heel into the fork near the headset.
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Old 01-02-09, 10:48 PM
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I've had the problem three times. Twice on Brevets it was raining so hard the rims and pads got too wet to work on steep hills. I put the left foot on the road and shifted as much weight onto it as I could. It just controlled the speed, I didn't stop 'til the bottom in both cases. Once on a recumbent tadpole trike I got going way too fast, the pads turned to smoke in seconds and I ground a hole into my left front shoe pushing on the left front wheel while counter-steering.
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Old 01-02-09, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
I've had the problem three times. Twice on Brevets it was raining so hard the rims and pads got too wet to work on steep hills. I put the left foot on the road and shifted as much weight onto it as I could. It just controlled the speed, I didn't stop 'til the bottom in both cases. Once on a recumbent tadpole trike I got going way too fast, the pads turned to smoke in seconds and I ground a hole into my left front shoe pushing on the left front wheel while counter-steering.
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Old 01-03-09, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
Twice on Brevets it was raining so hard the rims and pads got too wet to work on steep hills.
That's interesting. I ride in steep hills a lot and very often in hard rain and I've never had the brakes fail to work. They don't work as well as in the dry and it takes a couple of rotations of the wheels to squeegee off the water film before they bite but they always work. Maybe you should consider better brake pads. As often recommended here, Kool Stop Salmon pads are among the very best in all conditions.

Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
I put the left foot on the road and shifted as much weight onto it as I could. It just controlled the speed, I didn't stop 'til the bottom in both cases. Once on a recumbent tadpole trike I got going way too fast, the pads turned to smoke in seconds and I ground a hole into my left front shoe pushing on the left front wheel while counter-steering.
I see you take the term brake shoes quite literally.
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Old 01-03-09, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
That's interesting. I ride in steep hills a lot and very often in hard rain and I've never had the brakes fail to work. They don't work as well as in the dry and it takes a couple of rotations of the wheels to squeegee off the water film before they bite but they always work. Maybe you should consider better brake pads. As often recommended here, Kool Stop Salmon pads are among the very best in all conditions.
+1

I totally believe your story, because I too used to have crappy brake pads. Please buy some salmon colored cool stops before you are injured. They are much better.
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Old 01-03-09, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ken cummings View Post
I've had the problem three times. Twice on Brevets it was raining so hard the rims and pads got too wet to work on steep hills. I put the left foot on the road and shifted as much weight onto it as I could. It just controlled the speed, I didn't stop 'til the bottom in both cases. Once on a recumbent tadpole trike I got going way too fast, the pads turned to smoke in seconds and I ground a hole into my left front shoe pushing on the left front wheel while counter-steering.
Are you a quadraped? lol I couldn't resist. I know the feeling though, I've smoked some pads in the past and it gets kinda hairy.
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Old 01-03-09, 12:52 PM
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Having been on cruisers for most of the last 20 years I can say I haven't had that problem since the Reagan administration? However!

I've had one side of my crank shear off at the pedal MORE THAN ONCE and my BB come free at over 15 mph? Thing looked like a DRAG BIKE when it caught the road and got pullllllled back

I survived that with nary a dent but laying a cruiser down on Hospital Hill and getting a gravel transfusion isn't any fun
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Originally Posted by roadfix View Post
You have a better chance of hitting the lottery than having both cables fail at the same time.
Outside of sabotage and incompetence, of course. Regarding sabotage, I've seen more than one post on this site from riders who've had someone disable brakes, QR skewers, etc. I've never had that happen myself, but at least once I've disconnected the quick release on a brake and forgotten to reconnect it.

Fortunately, at both ends of my commute are parking lots that require me to ride my brakes a bit, so they get a quick test. Really makes you think, though.
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Old 01-04-09, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cbtumedic View Post
Are you a quadraped? lol I couldn't resist. I know the feeling though, I've smoked some pads in the past and it gets kinda hairy.
Ha! I seriously couldn't stop laughing for like 5 minutes after I read that.
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Old 01-04-09, 02:52 PM
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You guys that are recommending trying to stop buy screwing with the front wheel are courting disaster. You have no idea what it is like to jamb the front wheel and you, the bike do a cartwheel. Good luck!
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Old 01-04-09, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
Having been on cruisers for most of the last 20 years I can say I haven't had that problem since the Reagan administration? However!
I rented a single-speed, coaster-brake beach cruiser when on the west coast recently. Over the course of three days I put about 55 miles on this beast and had a number of adventures, including both tires flatting at the same time (no kevlar on this beast), the grease in the rear hub literally going up in smoke when I rode the coaster brake too long, and *dropping the chain on a downhill*.

Now, the only brake is a coaster break, which is DOA if you don't have a chain. I dragged my feet about a quarter mile, but it did eventually stop.
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That is why you CHECK your lug nuts and make sure the chain is TIGHT. If it's boing to be really muddy somewhere, get it cleaned off even if it's only a large water bottle squeezed at the sprockets. You forgot to veer back up the hill or scrub it off by zigzagging and of course SKIDDING. I was in mid-stroke when my pedal broke off so my balance was ruined and I had no footing and I fell.
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