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Which Workstand? Park Tools PCS-10 or Spin Doctor Pro G3?

Old 01-05-09, 07:42 AM
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Which Workstand? Park Tools PCS-10 or Spin Doctor Pro G3?

Any thougths on the Park Tools PCS-10 versus the Spin Doctor Pro G3 repair stands--or a similar one I may have overlooked?

Doing some web searching, these two seemed to stand out as the best in the up to $150 catagory. I anticipate only occassional use, but I'm willing to spend enough to get something fast and easy to set up and sturdy, because I know myself and if it's not those things, it will annoy me too much to want to use it.

I only got $300 total in the old used Peugeot I ride now. That's fixed up and fully accessorized. The bike cost me $10.

- Recreational rider. Perform occassional tire changes/home repairs.

- Apartment Dweller. Compact folding is essential.

- Fast Set-Up/Knockdown.

- $150 max.

- Sturdy. Not expecting shop quality rigidity; but it's flimsey, it will drive me nuts.

- Weight: Not an issue.

- My bike: Old Peugeot steel frame road bike. May get other bikes in future.

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Old 01-05-09, 08:17 AM
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I've had close to 300 bikes through my shop in the last couple years and every one of them on my pcs-10.
I don't have any complaints other than the little c clip on the pin that holds the jaws together pops off every now and then.
I don't care much for the spin doctor stuff.

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Old 01-05-09, 08:39 AM
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I just was looking at the same 2 stands, and ended up with the park one. It's heavier, but felt sturdier in the shop. It's easier to adjust the clamping jaws and the orientation of the clamp. I also like the base design more than the tripod of the G3.
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Old 01-05-09, 08:53 AM
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Either are good stands.

I like my Ultimate Pro, which the G3 copies. Apparently the bike stand portion of the Ultimate company was bought or spun off into a new company and they have some different models. They now have a Sport Mechanic model.

I think it will mainly come to which clamp you like better. They both fold fairly compact. They both have an optional tool tray that can be very handy. The previous Ultimate company had great support, I have not heard anything about the new company. Park has great customer support.
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Old 01-05-09, 09:44 AM
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Tree Fort Bikes has the PCS-10 on sale for $125.99 right now. I just ordered one and it should be here tomorrow. Everyone seemed to agree that the Park stands are a bit more stable and easy to use than most others on the market. I also heard a lot of good things about the Ultimate stands, but opted for the Park because I was able to find it a little cheaper.
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Old 01-08-09, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by md250r View Post
Tree Fort Bikes has the PCS-10 on sale for $125.99 right now.
Hi. That is a good price for that stand. And I see they offer free 5day UPS which keeps it a good deal. EDIT: I thought it was free shipping, but it turns out it is a free shipping upgrade to 5 days. Meh. Still a good price overall though.

I also see they have the PCS-11 model in aluminum for $16 more. I didn't consider weight an issue because I don't plan on taking it out of the house, but $16 more might be worth it even just for carrying it from the basement to the first floor.

I saw a good review of the PCS-11 here: https://www.sicklines.com/reviews/park-pcs-11/
but he rates it for the *mobile* cyclist or mechanic.

The only other comments about the -11 I could find on the web though weren't thoroughly favorable...
https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...ct/pcs11-32395
I'm suspecting the extra weight of the steel -10 may actually be an advantage if you don't need maximum portability.

Thanks to all for the comments so far.

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Old 01-08-09, 07:18 AM
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Oh, does the PCS-10 require an allen key to lock and loosen the two swinging legs to the upright post every time it's set up or taken down?
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Old 01-08-09, 07:29 AM
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No, they "click" into place upon set up w/ spring loaded ball bearings that match up with holes, and "unclick" for breakdown.
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Originally Posted by masiman View Post
Either are good stands. I like my Ultimate Pro, which the G3 copies.
Hi masiman,
I see the Ultimate Pro is a lightweight 10.5 lbs and the Spin Doctor G3 is 14 lbs. I get the feeling maybe the Spin Doctor is lighter and folds easier, but the Park Tools PCS-11 is sturdier. That's just from looking at pictures of them and getting comments on the web though. It would be ideal if I could compare them in a store, but I don't think any of my local LBS's have them both.
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Originally Posted by TomBrooklyn View Post
It would be ideal if I could compare them in a store, but I don't think any of my local LBS's have them both.
Spin Doctor is a Performance house brand so you will only find them at Performance retail shops or through Performance web or phone sales. Performance's web site does list the Park PSC-10 so maybe one of their retail shops would have both on display.
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Old 01-08-09, 09:25 AM
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Ah. Nearest Performance store is in Pennsylvania. Close...but not that close, to NYC.
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The stand should really be a one time purchase. I don't think I have heard of anyone wearing one out. Given that, if the choice were mine to make between Performance and Ultimate, I would choose the Ultimate. I think the G3 is decent and looks near equal to the Ultimate. I just don't trust Performance to support it over the long term and their customer service is okay but not as good as Ultimate or at least the previous company. I suspect the new company has as good customer service.

I have tried both and I honestly did not see a major difference between the Ultimate and G3. MTBR stand comment thread. I think the older G3 model had a clamp mechanism more like the Ultimate Pro Elite. In essence, I think the biggest thing is how well the clamp works. I think all the stands in this price range have the accesories, stabilty and folding worked out that there are not any issues with any of the variations. If people have complaints, it is how easy, intuitive and adaptable is the clamping mechanism. Things like how quickly can you get the clamp open and closed. Do you have to think about how to open and close. Can it adjust to the size of material I need to hold. Can the jaws fit where you need them to fit to hold the piece.

Whichever one you get, I can recommend the tool tray. It is nice to have the most used items right there, handy and organized with a place to put small items. The tray easily detaches on the Ultimate and I will assume the G3. I do not know about the Park.

Older threads on this topic:
Best Value
Repair stands
Ultimate or Park
Ultimate or Park II

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Is there a clamping issue when working with carbon fiber tubes? For carbon fiber bikes, what's the better stand to use?
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
Is there a clamping issue when working with carbon fiber tubes? For carbon fiber bikes, what's the better stand to use?
There is always a clamping issue with carbon (or very thin Al or steel) tubes. Clamping the tubes requires a very careful touch as too much pressure can crush them.

The general recommendation for carbon, Al or thin steel frames is to clamp them by the seatpost and never by the frame tubes. I bought a couple of very cheap seat posts in the right diameters and use them specifically as frame clamping tools. I remove the stock seatpost and saddle, install the cheap post and clamp it in my workstand.

Park sells a universal seatpost substitute tool (ISC-4) for this purpose but my approach is cheaper.
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My seatpost is Thomson Masterpiece which is aluminum. Would this still require me to substitute out like you suggest?
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
My seatpost is Thomson Masterpiece which is aluminum. Would this still require me to substitute out like you suggest?
The Thompsons, and most Al seatposts, are strong and thick walled enough to be able to clamp them with no harm. Carbon posts are probably OK too. They certainly are stronger than carbon frame tubes but I'm not sure I'd use one as a clamping point.

However, I uses the substitute since I don't have enough seatpost exposed to clear the workstand clamp's width. As long as I have to move or raise my good seatpost, I might as well install a cheap one and not take any chances of marking up the good one. Also, having the saddle out of the way is also a convenience.

BTW, I bought MTB-length replacement posts as they give a lot of latitude for how much I can leave exposed.
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