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Old 03-19-09, 12:06 PM
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Lennard Zinn's New Tool:

Lennard Zinn - half asleep here...For grabbing the cogs on a cassette while removing the lockring:


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That is a pretty cool tool. How much are they?

I put a long twist-tie on the end of my chain whip to hook over the handle and hold the chain engaged with the cog. But it's not a perfect solution by any means. For one thing I always put it on backwards the first time.
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I kept expecting the chain whip to fall off and have him screaming in pain from re-dislocating his shoulder
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Originally Posted by noglider
Ooof!

Zinn made his own; I suspect a sufficiently motivated mechanic could do the same.
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What problem was this solving again?
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Mashing your knuckles on the cogs when trying to removes a resistant lockring.
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A solution looking for a problem if you ask me.
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Looks like a customized Vise-Grip. I solve the stability problem by clamping the lockring tool with a locating pin pointing up in a bench vise, slipping the wheel over it cassette side down and applying the chain whip to whatever cog is handy. That way nothing slips.
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You've never had a chain whip slip off of the cogs? It doesn't happen to me very often, but it does happen every now and again, even with the lockring tool in the vise.

It looks interesting to me, but I wonder why the arms aren't very long. I like the longer arm of the chain whip for better leverage. Also, a longer arm would make it easier to use with a bench vise.
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Those Stein hyperhandles are the business!! I have two and they work very well.
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I could see the vice-whip paying for itself in a busy shop. In my house? Nah......
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Originally Posted by SweetLou
You've never had a chain whip slip off of the cogs? It doesn't happen to me very often, but it does happen every now and again, even with the lockring tool in the vise.
Not if I'm careful to be sure the chain is wrapped fully around the cog. Sure, it happened the first couple of times I used a chainwhip but I learned pretty quickly how to prevent it.
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I made my own chain whip from a large metal strap that I found at a lumber yard back in the 80's, plus a couple lengths of worn out chain. Probably cost $2.

I just replaced that chain with a well worn piece of DA 10 chain that is narrow enough to work with Campy 11. I've never had a chain whip slip yet.
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Originally Posted by GV27
I could see the vice-whip paying for itself in a busy shop. In my house? Nah......
Exactly. A little caution, which costs time, is fine. Like maybe fastening the chain whip with a rubber band, to make sure it stays on all the teeth. In a professional shop, better to use the tool which saves time and thought.

I have a shop in my basement, and I have some professional bike mechanic tools, but I don't think I'll be buying this one, at least not soon.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I have a shop in my basement, and I have some professional bike mechanic tools, but I don't think I'll be buying this one, at least not soon.
...yep...I'll wait a few years for Harbor Freight to put out a knock-off...
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Originally Posted by zoste
...yep...I'll wait a few years for Harbor Freight to put out a knock-off...
I suspect you'll be waiting a long time. They don't have highly specialized tools, do they?
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Originally Posted by noglider
I suspect you'll be waiting a long time. They don't have highly specialized tools, do they?
cheap........junk


The chainwip, great for a shop, but to expensive for DIY. Drop the price in half....
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The vithe wip ith vewwy nithe if you ahw a profethional mechanic, but vewwy ecthpenthiv ove-kiuw fow the home mechanic.
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I have a bad back... I use the bench vise, a chain whip, and sometimes a snipe to reduce the amount of effort needed to release the lock ring.
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I've always used 2 whips held by one hand and the other to remove the locking cog (or whatever it is called). I've never bashed my knuckles. I do like the tool though it won't be in my bin any time soon.
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Originally Posted by Panthers007
Mashing your knuckles on the cogs when trying to removes a resistant lockring.
You're doing something wrong if your knuckles are bashing into the cog.
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I'd rather think so, too. I'm not buying one. A course in physics would serve one better.
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