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Old 05-05-09, 03:22 PM
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Major disaster - dropout broken off...reparable?

Hi there

this has been a bad morning...I was riding to work when I felt my rear wheel wobbling around, I stopped to check and soon after held the rear wheel in my hand - the cantilever dropout of my Cannondale 3.0 frame ('91, old, I know, but I thought these things were built for life...) had fallen off. I know that these dropouts were designed to be replaceable but I am not sure if this can be fixed. Below are links to a couple of images, do you think anything could be done here?

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3402/...3132c54b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3663/...565edb35_b.jpg
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Aluminum? Nope.
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Short answer- no. The frame is toast.

Long answer- You can sort of see in the second picture that the "removable/replacable" part of the hanger fits around the outside of the dropout and bolts on with two bolts. In this case, the derailler hanger didn't break, the entire dropout broke, and I'm guessing the non-drive side dropout isn't in great shape either if this is the case. It could probably be repaired by a competent aluminum welder, although you will have to grind down the weld bead in order to fit the derailler hanger back on, but unless you have a friend who can do it, it won't be worth the cost of repairs.

On the plus side, depending on your location you can probably find a replacement Cannondale road frame from the same era for ~$100 or so on Craigslist, but a word of caution: when discussing early aluminum Cannondales, the phrase "built for life" doesn't come up often.

Good luck!
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thanks for the quick replies although they're not very encouraging...that's it then, have to sell the bike for parts then, shame, I just bough a new set of wheels and somehow emotionally attached to this bike...sigh
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Good enough reason to buy a new bike.

If so, want components do you have on there, I'm interested.
 
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My Trek frame is under some warranty for life. At some depreciating fashion (I'd have to put on my Lawyer-Hat and dig it up). But perhaps Cannondale has the same policy/warranty? No doubt only if you are the original owner and can prove this. But it may be worth looking into.

Other than that - as suggested above - try Craigslist and eBay for someone off-loading same.

Good luck!
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Good point, I am the original owner and certainly still have the receipt somewhere...I seem to remember there was a lifetime warranty thing but then Cannondale has changed ownership a couple of times since I believe since I bought this bike...worth a try though!
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Originally Posted by Panthers007 View Post
My Trek frame is under some warranty for life. At some depreciating fashion (I'd have to put on my Lawyer-Hat and dig it up). But perhaps Cannondale has the same policy/warranty? No doubt only if you are the original owner and can prove this. But it may be worth looking into.

Other than that - as suggested above - try Craigslist and eBay for someone off-loading same.

Good luck!
Cannondale offers frame trade-ins for almost any cannondale frame- you may not get much of a discount, but it's apparently worth some money to them to keep you on one of their frames. Take your broken bike to the nearest cannondale dealer and see if you can get a frame that will allow you to keep the same parts, with the possible exception of a new threadless headset and stem. You'll need to check seatpost diameter, rear dropout spacing, front derailler clamp diameter, etc.
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Originally Posted by Tonycycling View Post
Good enough reason to buy a new bike.

If so, want components do you have on there, I'm interested.
A wild mixture...Deore DX cranks and rear derailleur, XT front derailleur, V-brakes and levers. gripshift shifters, Syntace duraflite bar, Ritchey seatpost, Mavic headset...
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Originally Posted by Sito View Post
A wild mixture...Deore DX cranks and rear derailleur, XT front derailleur, V-brakes and levers. gripshift shifters, Syntace duraflite bar, Ritchey seatpost, Mavic headset...
You've just described any of my bicycles! Always a custom work in progress. In search of the Holy Grail!

Carry on.
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Old 05-05-09, 04:15 PM
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Discouraging images, especially since I have a Cannondale of about the same vintage. Mine has recently passed the 100 kmile point and I'm hoping it will see many more - any estimate on the mileage on yours?

If you're the original owner and have some documentation then I'd certainly inquire about warranty coverage. Most bikes at that time carried a lifetime warranty on the frame although that has now become a rarity. Mine was a used purchase so no warranty would apply, but I'd still check about a discounted replacement frame policy.
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Go ahead, think words like modern, upgrade, what I want, I don't care what it costs, gonna indulge myself, &c. In no time at all, you'll have a new bike you really like. bk
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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
Discouraging images, especially since I have a Cannondale of about the same vintage. Mine has recently passed the 100 kmile point and I'm hoping it will see many more - any estimate on the mileage on yours?

If you're the original owner and have some documentation then I'd certainly inquire about warranty coverage. Most bikes at that time carried a lifetime warranty on the frame although that has now become a rarity. Mine was a used purchase so no warranty would apply, but I'd still check about a discounted replacement frame policy.
mhh, no idea about the mileage. This had very heavy use probably the first 7 or 8 years of its life, most of it off-road but then it got less and less and it got reactivated only last year as a commuter bike...I would reckon it has no more then 25.000km on the clock, if that...
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Go ahead, think words like modern, upgrade, what I want, I don't care what it costs, gonna indulge myself, &c. In no time at all, you'll have a new bike you really like. bk
I think I have to agree with you Any suggestions for an urban commuter bike in London? Any views on the Cannondale Bad Boy: http://www.evanscycles.com/products/...-bike-ec016536

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Is that why they call them Cracknfail?
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Wow! You are thinking the right thoughts, that's for sure. Shop around and definitelly test ride a range of rides. You will know which one as soon as you ride it. bk
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Interesting timing for this post considering I picked this up two weekends ago:

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Originally Posted by Rick Rubin View Post
Aluminum? Nope.
In a word... Why?
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Sorry to hear this happened. But really, nothing lasts forever. If you can get a new frame out of Cannondale, great... if not, the bike is 18 years old and does not owe you anything. Make it into a kite or a planter box or something. I have a lightweight steel road bike from the same era and I will not be surprised if it gives up the ghost sometime in the next ten years... not surprised, but heartbroken.

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Original owner I'd be asking about my lifetime warranty
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Original owner I'd be asking about my lifetime warranty
I thought so too, but then I remembered that a warranty is designed to protect the consumer against 'defective' goods... a lightweight aluminum bicycle only lasting 18 years can hardly be called defective, IMHO.

Sounds more like wear-and-tear to me.
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Original owner I'd be asking about my lifetime warranty
Absolutely. The worst they can do is deny the claim. At best, they replace the frame free.

I do know of Trek owners who had a frame fail after years of use and Trek replaced it at no cost. Give it a try.
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I do know of Trek owners who had a frame fail after years of use and Trek replaced it at no cost. Give it a try.
So do I which is why I said it. Trek will do it in a heartbeat, I'm really curious if Cannondale is as good.
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Originally Posted by LarDasse74 View Post
I thought so too, but then I remembered that a warranty is designed to protect the consumer against 'defective' goods... a lightweight aluminum bicycle only lasting 18 years can hardly be called defective, IMHO. Sounds more like wear-and-tear to me.
When bikes started to be made of aluminum, it was the general opinion that Al bikes would die from metal fatigue in a couple of years. The response of the manufacturers was to offer lifetime warrant against frame failure. I dont think that many original owners will have made claims after 18 yrs.
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