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Old 06-21-09, 04:56 PM
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Where do I lube, how much, and what to use?

I just bought an 80's Italian steel bike (Marnati) with Campy SR grouppo off of Craigslist. I spent today dissembling everything but the bearings (I'll do this later when I have access to more tools), and scrubbing everything out with a toothbrush, steel wool, etc. to get the grime out of the components. I am now putting it back together. I've got some grease for all the threaded bits, but am not sure where to use lube (brake pivots, downtube shift levers, deraillers, etc.) and what's best. I have a bottle of Triflow and WD-40 on hand - will one of those work? Also, what's the best way to get lube down in the cable housings? Do I need to pull out the cables first?

So where do I need to lube, what do I use, and how much? I want everything to work smoothly without attracting too much dirt/dust. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Chain lubing I already understand, so that isn't a problem.
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Old 06-21-09, 05:05 PM
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Keep the WD-40 far far far away, Triflow is the way to go, great stuff, and smells great too. My general rule of thumb, anything that pivots, that grease would not be in or on. Brake levers, shift levers, FD, RD, the adjustment screws on the FD, RD, the brake pivot points, might want to shoot a couple drops down your brake cables/shift cables, etc. It doesn't take a lot, since triflow gets in between anything. Just use good sense, dropping a 1 or 2 drops of triflow won't hurt anything, even if it won't need it.
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Old 06-21-09, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by johnknappcc View Post
Keep the WD-40 far far far away, ...
+1.

WD40 has its place around the house (squeaky hinge, removing residue adhesive), just not on a bike.
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Old 06-21-09, 05:18 PM
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any metal on metal contact should be oiled, bearings greased, threads should have anti seize compound or grease
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Old 06-21-09, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MudPie View Post
+1.

WD40 has its place around the house (squeaky hinge, removing residue adhesive), just not on a bike.
Not sure why everyone is so down on WD40 for use on a bike. It's a GREAT cleaner and degreaser. I have never had it cause ANY DAMAGE to my bicycles. I use it to clean my chain before lubing the chain with tri-flow. I use it to clean the freeehub bodies on my wheels before lubing them. I have had many people say to me "Oh my god, you use WD40 on your bike, that's bad!". When you ask them for personal experience of the badness caused by WD40, I have never had anyone able to relate to a direct problem that WD40 caused..rather they just say that "somebody smart told me so".

Sure, you would never use it as your primary lubricant, but it does have it's uses.
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Old 06-21-09, 08:23 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I used Tri-flow as recommended and everything seems to be working smoothly.
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Old 06-21-09, 08:24 PM
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Before you ride it grease the headset bearings, bottom bracket bearings, hub bearings, and pedal bearings. Replace any of the old bearings that can be replaced (probably all). Any good bike shop should have the bearings that you need.

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Originally Posted by MudPie View Post
+1.

WD40 has its place around the house (squeaky hinge, removing residue adhesive), just not on a bike.
Oy.
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Old 06-21-09, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by woodway View Post
Not sure why everyone is so down on WD40 for use on a bike. It's a GREAT cleaner and degreaser. I have never had it cause ANY DAMAGE to my bicycles. I use it to clean my chain before lubing the chain with tri-flow.
It does clean and degrease . . . I just meant don't use it as a lubricant. People are down on it, because it shouldn't be used as a lube, and a lot of people might not realize that. Therefore, it is better to not use it at all (on a bike).
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Old 06-22-09, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by woodway View Post
Not sure why everyone is so down on WD40 for use on a bike. It's a GREAT cleaner and degreaser. I have never had it cause ANY DAMAGE to my bicycles. I use it to clean my chain before lubing the chain with tri-flow. I use it to clean the freeehub bodies on my wheels before lubing them. I have had many people say to me "Oh my god, you use WD40 on your bike, that's bad!". When you ask them for personal experience of the badness caused by WD40, I have never had anyone able to relate to a direct problem that WD40 caused..rather they just say that "somebody smart told me so".

Sure, you would never use it as your primary lubricant, but it does have it's uses.


The problem with WD-40 is that it contains DMSO, a skin penetrant. That's what makes it so great at freeing frozen, rusty parts. But it can penetrate the pores of your skin, carrying the petroleum solvents with it. I use to use it all the time, and always got killer headaches that aspirin and tylenol wouldn't touch. Finally figured out it was the WD-40. Since I've stop using it, no more headaches.
It does have it's uses. When you MUST use it as a solvent/cleaner, wear nitrile rubber (blue) gloves. Take them off as soon as you're done handling the wet parts. Also, DON'T breathe the vapors. Have alot of ventilation in your work area.
A good substitute that I've found is a product called "Supco 88". It's a oil-enhancer developed for the HVAC industry. It is used to super-lubricate any bearing or bushing surface, and keep them clean. It contains ultra-pure, de-sulfurized kerosene, and two waxes. Excellent lube, excellent anti-seize and breakfree, and a fairly good cleaner. Very low fumes......and no headaches!!!!
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Originally Posted by johnknappcc View Post
It does clean and degrease . . . I just meant don't use it as a lubricant
Oy.

People are down on it, because it shouldn't be used as a lube,
Oy.

Therefore, it is better to not use it at all (on a bike).
Oy.

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Originally Posted by neil0502 View Post
Oy, Oy, Oy
Well I never use it myself, but thanks for the MSDS . . . not sure what you are getting at?
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Originally Posted by palladio View Post
So where do I need to lube, what do I use, and how much? I want everything to work smoothly without attracting too much dirt/dust. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I dunno, sounds like a pretty personal question to me........shouldn't you ask your SO?
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Originally Posted by johnknappcc View Post
Well I never use it myself, but thanks for the MSDS . . . not sure what you are getting at?
It's a lube with a carrier that evaporates.

Much like the "home brew" chain lube that many of us use.

Is it a GREAT bike lube? Nah. Many -- if not most -- are better.

But does hit have a place in a bike shop? Ayup. I use it frequently, and without any ill effects. It's also one of my winter chain lube go-to's ... and works like a charm, used frequently.

NB: I'm not affiliated with WD-40 in any way. Just a happy customer
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Old 06-23-09, 05:16 AM
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I used to use WD40 ALL the time on my bike when I was a kid. only thing my parents had and we were DEFINITELY not made of money. never had a problem with my bike and I would run the pi$$ outta it all day long. not to say I'll use that as a lube now days, I rarely use it. even for hinges, I use a type of oil cause wd40 doesnt last. but I heard wd40 on bait works good for fishing! and I would get that stuff on me and it would stay on for awhile and I never had problems......not to say that you're lying bout the headaches, just my experience.

by the way, can I get this triflow, etc from say walmart? I have an old bottle I still use now, but could use some more.
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