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pedalhard 07-25-09 04:04 PM

What's the difference?
 
Between bike lube[white grease]and anti-seize? I got some new Zipp skewers and it said to use anti-seize on the ends I have always used lube? also what about for Ti bikes with an aluim. seat post?

operator 07-25-09 04:10 PM

Anti-seize it.

DannoXYZ 07-25-09 04:47 PM

"Lube" as in grease have pressure-enduring additives to resist high-load applications. Such as moly or zinc particles. Anti-seize have no such pressure-resisting additive. Rather, they have anti-corrosion and anti-galling compounds, which may not be the best for lubrication. Basically, they are specific products with specific applications in their design. However, there is some criss-cross in the usage possible, where anti-seize may be substituted in low-demand lubrication uses and grease may be used in basic anti-seize applications.

In your case, grease will work fine as an anti-seize, but the real stuff would be better in the long run, especially if you ride in adverse conditions like mud and rain. In other more demanding areas, like seatposts, anti-seize works a lot better than grease.

bikemeister 07-25-09 04:58 PM

I would think about installing a titanium seat post on a Ti frame. An old friend of mine had an Al seatpost seize inside his Ti frame, and they basically had to cut it out. He went to a Ti post - no problems.
It's called "galvanic corrosion". Anytime two different metals are touching and an electrolyte (like sweat) is present, the two metals corrode together. Very tough to separate.
Even anti-seize isn't perfect, and it doesn't last forever. Using the same metals is the only sure way around the problem. (steel for steel, AL for AL, Ti for Ti) - and I'd still grease the junction.

HillRider 07-25-09 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by bikemeister (Post 9353473)
I would think about installing a titanium seat post on a Ti frame. An old friend of mine had an Al seatpost seize inside his Ti frame, and they basically had to cut it out. He went to a Ti post - no problems.

I would interpret his problems with the seized seatpost as obvious neglect. If you remove, clean and regrease a seatpost (of any type in any frame) once a year or so, it should never have a problem. The same is true for quill stems in threaded forks too.

I have three Ti frames and all three have Al seatposts. I've had the oldest frame and it's seatpost for 13 years and 70,000+ miles and it has never had the slightest problem with corrosion or siezure. I remove the seatpost about once a year, wipe it off and grease it with Phil Grease (but any brand would do) and that's it.

Jed19 07-25-09 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by HillRider (Post 9353610)
I would interpret his problems with the seized seatpost as obvious neglect. If you remove, clean and regrease a seatpost (of any type in any frame) once a year or so, it should never have a problem. The same is true for quill stems in threaded forks too.

I have three Ti frames and all three have Al seatposts. I've had the oldest frame and it's seatpost for 13 years and 70,000+ miles and it has never had the slightest problem with corrosion or siezure. I remove the seatpost about once a year, wipe it off and grease it with Phil Grease (but any brand would do) and that's it.

I agree. I always take out my seatposts every six month or so for cleaning and regreasing. This preventive maintenance routine has always served me well.

DannoXYZ 07-25-09 08:08 PM

Yeah, even alloy posts in steel frames will have anodic corrosion problems. Wait, we've had that combination for 80+ years!!! Some people have had no problems and others have had to destroy parts. It's the proper procedure that's most important in preventing seizing and corroded seatpsots.

JohnDThompson 07-25-09 08:52 PM

Anti-seize is essentially grease with metal particles (usually aluminum or copper) added to act as a consumable anode to prevent electrolytic galling between dissimilar metals.

DannoXYZ 07-25-09 11:40 PM

Or a very inert metal like silver.


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