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Old 09-01-09, 05:50 PM
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Sr bb cup..two square holes (big ones)

Hey all, I got an old SR bottom bracket cup I'm trying to remove off on older Raleigh America Olympian... It is one of those adjustable bbs (I love them), but my trusty spanner cannot handle this bad boy. I could take a picture and will if no one responds....But basically it has two relatively big square holes that are alot like the small circular holes used on most other removable bbs but they are way large and way square...What tool do I need for this job?
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Hello. these holes are on the adj cup? I think I remember that tool but a pic sure would help.

I think I found it does this look right? I think this tool was the fixed cup tool in another raleigh thread HCW-11

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...&item=HCW%2D11
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
Hello. these holes are on the adj cup? I think I remember that tool but a pic sure would help.

I think I found it does this look right? I think this tool was the fixed cup tool in another raleigh thread HCW-11

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...&item=HCW%2D11
I'm thinking maybe the VAR #311.
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Old 09-01-09, 09:35 PM
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http://briandrwecki.com/Documents/IMG_0265.JPG
Click the link to see it in a normal resolution I tried posting via the pic option, but no dice.. too much res on the camera.. It's an SR japan bb.
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Old 09-01-09, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drwecki View Post
http://briandrwecki.com/Documents/IMG_0265.JPG
Click the link to see it in a normal resolution I tried posting via the pic option, but no dice.. too much res on the camera.. It's an SR japan bb.
YUP You're right..that's what I would need. What is the likelihood that my LBS will have it? Awe carp, I don't want to buy that !
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Old 09-01-09, 10:42 PM
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YUP You're right..that's what I would need. What is the likelihood that my LBS will have it? Awe carp, I don't want to buy that !
Then don't. Borrow it or go to the LBS to get it off. If you don't plan on reusing that bb then go ahead and don't buy it.
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Old 09-02-09, 01:13 PM
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Then don't. Borrow it or go to the LBS to get it off. If you don't plan on reusing that bb then go ahead and don't buy it.
Yes, I don't even think I could buy it if I wanted too. I've looked over the interwebs and I'm not having luck and I can't read french (VAR still exists).
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hit it with a hammer a few times. this will likely free it up enough so that you can use a hammer
and punch to back it out far enough to grab it with slip joint pliers. velo orange has french threaded
cartridge bb's

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Old 09-02-09, 02:57 PM
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You can just use a large bolt/nut to remove the cup. Often this is recommended for cups that are stuck but it should do the job on this cup, stuck or not.

Here's Sheldon Brown's explanation:

http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html
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Originally Posted by Iowegian View Post
You can just use a large bolt/nut to remove the cup. Often this is recommended for cups that are stuck but it should do the job on this cup, stuck or not.

Here's Sheldon Brown's explanation:

http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html
The OP's cup is the adjustable cup and the bottom bracket is still installed; Sheldon's bolt method only works if you can get one of the cups out without difficulty. If the cup was lubricated well prior to installation, a pin spanner may be good enough, otherwise the VAR #311 referenced earlier, or even a drift punch and a hammer.
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the park tool will not work because....
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Look at the picture of my BB and look at the tool. It's not the right tool for the bb. Your tool would grab something with square holes along the diameter of the cup....my bb has holes in the middle of the cup... So you need something with two pegs that fit into the holes and then a perpendicular lever. I could probably make one out of bolts and wood... I'll go talk to the shop guys...If the tool is more than a new bb, I'll just go with the new bb.. and have them take it out for me (they do that for me all the time..)
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it is a double ended tool I used it all the time for adjust cups with the 'square' holes in them
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
the park tool will not work because....
Because the cup in question has recessed rectangular holes, not a raised rectangular projection.
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if you actually look at the park tool closely you will notice that, like most park BB tools, it is double ended. the end most promently seen in the phot os for the fixed but. but if you look real close, put your readers on, you see two rectangular prongs on the other end for this adjust cup. when I get home on sunday I will post some close ups of mine and maybe go and find a BB as well.

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...&item=HCW%2D11
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
if you actually look at the park tool closely you will notice that, like most park BB tools, it is double ended. the end most promently seen in the phot os for the fixed but. but if you look real close, put your readers on, you see two rectangular prongs on the other end for this adjust cup. when I get home on sunday I will post some close ups of mine and maybe go and find a BB as well.

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...&item=HCW%2D11
Hahah post #14 owned.

At any rate, he's not using it because if you've bothered to actually read the thread, he can't find it and he's not in posession of said tool. So, basically if it's not too stuck he can use a hammer and punch which he probably has or go to an lbs to get it off.
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Yeah, that looks like it will work too. Maybe being more forthright at first to point out what I and the other dude didn't see, because it's not prominently presented in the main picture (instead of asking a leading question that you can then "own"). Here's my point,2 semi-sane individuals didn't see it. Which doesn't mean we are both completely morons, instead it means maybe the info being presented wasn't clear (maybe linking the picture of the other end would have been more helpful).. But, yeah that may work. The other one got more recognition by me becuase in the add it says it is for my SR BB.. But thanks for the info.! What do you call them if they aren't square holes? Anyways, this is on hold given a recent computer malfunction wiping out my funds.. DON"T BUY ANY HP TX1000 computers ever (nor any HP computers ever again).. DIE HP DIE!
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