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johnknappcc 09-16-09 01:30 AM

Where does the tape end?
 
I got a set of Nitto Noodle bars today, and these are the first bars I've had with a pronounced/edged clamping ferrule.

http://renaissancebicycles.com/image...tto-noodle.jpg

Do I wrap the bar tape all the way to the ferrule, and then have the electrical tape overlap the ferrule, or wrap the bar tape just short of the ferrule, and tape to the edge. I'm leaning towards the second way.

Thoughts?

fucxms 09-16-09 01:45 AM

The latter.

operator 09-16-09 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by fucxms (Post 9683695)
The latter.

No.

Jay D 09-16-09 01:55 AM

I would wrap the bar tape so it ends flush with the end of the ferrule then tape over the seem to make it look nice and clean looking.

fucxms 09-16-09 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by operator (Post 9683704)
No.

You want him to cover up those pretty Nitto etchings?

Retro Grouch 09-16-09 05:41 AM

I cut my handlebar wrap at an angle so that it butts up against the ferrule, then wrap electrical tape over that.

mkeller234 09-16-09 05:59 AM

You could always wrap starting from the top down vintage style. It works well with cloth, not sure it would do as well with cork.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/...a9dc533d_o.jpg

Leaves nothing but a neat clean edge:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/...31cb6885_o.jpg

Panthers007 09-16-09 07:55 AM

I'll second the top-down wrap. Though cork-tape may not like this (from a few reports - but nothing substantive), cloth, leather, plastic, so forth works fine.

Save The Electrical-Tape!

johnknappcc 09-16-09 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by fucxms (Post 9683722)
You want him to cover up those pretty Nitto etchings?

It's for that very reason, why I asked the question. I don't want tape on the ferrule because of the etchings.


Originally Posted by mkeller234 (Post 9684034)
You could always wrap starting from the top down vintage style. It works well with cloth, not sure it would do as well with cork.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/...a9dc533d_o.jpg

Leaves nothing but a neat clean edge:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/...31cb6885_o.jpg

That looks amazing! and that was my first choice (top down) but with my cork wrap I couldn't get it to stay in place (even with tape to start). With the brake cable underneath, I think it would be even more difficult.

Does cotton wrap absorb road vibrations as well as cork? I really like the cork for that.


Originally Posted by Panthers007 (Post 9684512)
I'll second the top-down wrap. Though cork-tape may not like this (from a few reports - but nothing substantive), cloth, leather, plastic, so forth works fine.

Save The Electrical-Tape!

I was thinking of electrical taping the ends (butted up to the ferrule) and then doing the twine wrap over the electrical tape. Might be an interesting experiment.

I'm going to play around with it when I have the bike on the stand today. The cork I use isn't tacky on the back, so I can change it if need be.

Booger1 09-16-09 09:53 AM

I always wondered why people have tape on their handlebars? When did that start, I seem to have missed the memo.

Over the years I've wrapped my handlebars with everything there is,cloth,plastic,cork,leather,never had any trouble getting a plug in the end.

Panthers007 09-16-09 10:01 AM

I wrap top-down with Brook's leather. No tape. Works great! And the Celeste housing was a joke - since removed! LOL!

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/p...g/IMG_0341.jpg

LarDasse74 09-16-09 10:36 AM

Wrap from bottom to top, starting clockwise on the right half of the bar (when viewed from behind) and counter-clockwise on the left.

When you reach the top, the tape should be wrapping toward the back of the bike on the top of the bars.

Wrap should initially overlap the point where you wish to terminate at the top, then cut the tape at an angle so the edge ends flush at your termination point. Wrap a single width of electrical tape over this flush end so it overlaps the edge by a mm or two.

Panthers007 09-16-09 11:54 AM

You can tell, almost to the day, when someone first wrapped a handlebar. I learned in 1971. Everyone wrapped top-down. Most of us up into the 1980's still do.

Retro Grouch 09-16-09 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Panthers007 (Post 9686032)
You can tell, almost to the day, when someone first wrapped a handlebar. I learned in 1971. Everyone wrapped top-down. Most of us up into the 1980's still do.

Maybe, maybe not. At some point I switched from top down to bottom up. I don't remember exactly when but I'm pretty sure it was sometime in the 80's.

southpawboston 09-16-09 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Panthers007 (Post 9686032)
You can tell, almost to the day, when someone first wrapped a handlebar. I learned in 1971. Everyone wrapped top-down. Most of us up into the 1980's still do.

i guess that window is more like a decade, not a day. :)

johnknappcc 09-16-09 03:51 PM

Alright, while you squares were arguing about the 1850's ;), I taped my bars (as in the second method above). I kept trying to do the top down, but the S-Wrap is relatively thick, and has no adhesive, and basically kept unraveling.

The results (this is preliminary, client called and had to cut my bike maintenance short) I will clean up the edges by the ferrule:

http://gallery.a-symmetric.com/main....serialNumber=2

And I get the crests, so I'm happy:

http://gallery.a-symmetric.com/main....serialNumber=2

Panthers007 09-16-09 04:03 PM

I first encountered the practice, in my part of the country, in 1988. I thought it was some dumb kid's doing. I soon found this untrue.

mkeller234 09-16-09 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by johnknappcc (Post 9687750)
Alright, while you squares were arguing about the 1850's ;), I taped my bars (as in the second method above). I kept trying to do the top down, but the S-Wrap is relatively thick, and has no adhesive, and basically kept unraveling.

The results (this is preliminary, client called and had to cut my bike maintenance short) I will clean up the edges by the ferrule:

http://gallery.a-symmetric.com/main....serialNumber=2

And I get the crests, so I'm happy:

http://gallery.a-symmetric.com/main....serialNumber=2


That looks good, the bike looks really nice too. Nice work!

Cadfael 09-17-09 12:53 AM

My bike was built and fitted out by Dave Lloyd... this is how he did mine...

http://www.ecadfael.fu8.com/dl_bike/P3121522.JPG

... I am not saying it is the only way, nor the best way, but I have had no issues with it.

mkeller234 09-17-09 01:04 AM

well, seeing the tape chosen I would watch Dave for signs of drug abuse. :p

LarDasse74 09-17-09 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Panthers007 (Post 9686032)
You can tell, almost to the day, when someone first wrapped a handlebar. I learned in 1971. Everyone wrapped top-down. Most of us up into the 1980's still do.

I started wrapping bars in the mid 80's... usually Benotto plastic tape. I used the top-down method and I liked it. WHen I switched to padded tape I found it constantly unravelled and someone told me I should try wrapping buttom-up, which I did, and I have since considered the problem solved.

Some people may be able to wrap cork and padded tape top-down (from a few reports - but nothing substantive ;)) but I cannot.

LarDasse74 09-17-09 07:58 AM

That is a great looking bike, BTW. Do you have any more pictures?

Panthers007 09-17-09 07:23 PM

I've never wrapped with padded tape or cork. I remain a purist and only go for cotton or cloth. I find padding feels like I'm holding onto a pillow - which makes me feel like my bike isn't as responsive as it is with cloth or leather. But that's me. Use what you like.

operator 09-17-09 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by fucxms (Post 9683722)
You want him to cover up those pretty Nitto etchings?

You know you can finish the roll off without more than 2mm of overlap right? You can do it the sloppy and ugly way and overlap half the width of the electrical tape if you want to do it wrong.

johnknappcc 09-17-09 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by LarDasse74 (Post 9691175)
That is a great looking bike, BTW. Do you have any more pictures?

Which bike? I think all of them are quite nice. :thumb:


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