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Old 09-23-09, 08:16 PM
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Noob Question - Chain & Gear Compatibility

Hi Everyone,

Apologies in advance for my lack of knowledge and any terminology I get wrong!
I'm a complete noob and need some help from someone who actually KNOWS the answer to this and not just someone who KNIDA THINKS they have a solution, which describes my mates perfectly!!

I have been given a free bike by one of my mates and it has one problem: The gears on the back wheel are missing. So I have discovered it's called a Freewheel (the screw on type) and it has to be an 8 speed block to work with the shifter and deraileur. As Shimano never made an 8 speed screw on block I have to get one that now says "will only work with shimano HG Chain".

Now for the problem: the 3 cogs at the front (called crankset / gearset??? pls correct me!) have written on them "use shimano IG chain only" and my local, and incredibly overpriced, bike shop is telling me I have to change these for shimano HG, which will cost a fortune, as the front and back cogs and chain must match.

Having spent days reading these and other forums I have learned that SRAM chains are compatible with HG and IG systems and pretty much everything else so here is the question:

If I have IG cogs at the front, HG cogs on the back and an SRAM 830 or 850 chain will it all work or will I end up pushing my bike all the way up and down the hill?

Thanks for any and all responses!!!
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Originally Posted by gillmcc
If I have IG cogs at the front, HG cogs on the back and an SRAM 830 or 850 chain will it all work or will I end up pushing my bike all the way up and down the hill?
Your plan will work just fine. I don't know what's up with your LBS, but I would find another one if I were you. BTW there is a Mechanics subforum on BF. You might want to cross-post there for confirmation.
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You can used any Shimano or SRAM 8 speed chain and it will be fine.
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Buy the SRAM chain. Easier to put on and take off than shimano, less expensive too. I had a guy at the bike shop tell me a SRAM power link would probably not work on a KMC chain since SRAM recommends only using them on their chains. Guess what? It works great. Sometimes the LBS guys just wanna make more cash.
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Not to worry. Sounds like you have 8-speed shifters and you're going to install a 7-speed freewheel. They aren't spaced exactly the same but they're close enough that they'll work together - not perfectly but they will work. Stick on a 7-speed freewheel and an 8-speed chain and you'll be good to go.

Don't worry about all that HG and IG stuff. I assume there is a fine tuneing difference, but I've never figured it out and I've been messing with bikes for a real long time. Don't worry about the fine tuneing - you've got mis-matched shifters and freewheel so it's never going to be perfect. If you want perfect, you're going to have to spend more money.
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Thanks!

Thanks to everyone for their replies! Much appreciated!

I am ordering an SRAM chain and the 8 speed freewheel as we speak!

It's really nice to find a forum with lots of friendly people, hope I can return the favour someday!
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The "IG" chains were recommended for MTB cassettes and the "HG" for road cassettes. The practical differences? Nada. I used IG (specifically IG90) chains on 7 and 8-speed road bike cassettes and cranks for years and they performed terrifically. The IG90 chain was one of Shimano's real bargains too.
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I'm a little bit thrown by the 8-speed freewheel. I've only seen them made by Sachs-Maillard, not Shimano. and the S-M requires a 130 mm spacing rear hub. Plus it was never a common arrangement. 8-speed cassette, yes, but not 8-speed freewheel.

I agree on SRAM chains. They should work fine. You LBS just wants to make money off you.
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I'm a little bit thrown by the 8-speed freewheel. I've only seen them made by Sachs-Maillard, not Shimano. and the S-M requires a 130 mm spacing rear hub. Plus it was never a common arrangement. 8-speed cassette, yes, but not 8-speed freewheel.

I agree on SRAM chains. They should work fine. You LBS just wants to make money off you.
8-speed freewheels were never made by Shimano on the reasonable argument that the greater unsuported length of axle needed by them would make the broken axle problems of 6 and 7-speed freewheels much more severe.

By the time 8-speed came out, the Shimano cassette system with the drive side bearing located at the end of the freehub body had pretty much eliminated broken axles and was a far stronger system.
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