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Old 10-08-09, 08:03 AM
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dealing with flat tires

Wanted to know what you guys do about avoiding flat tires
Yesterday was riding on the bike path. I was sunny and very windy
And there were tree braches, pine cones all over the place and I tied to avoid them but ran over a few branches and pine cones. So would you know it my front tire went flat
I did have a pump and I pumped it up every minute or so till I got close to home and ended walking the rest. When I took the tire apart it ended up having a very small piece of wood like a tooth pick. This is the first flat that I have had in 700 miles and I guess I was lucky. So the Question is do these tire liners that you put inside the tire really work or are they just junk. Also do any of you just take a spare tube and have tools with you to try to fix the tire???? To me that seems like a Pain in the A+++
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I don't use tire liners because they degrade the ride somewhat. Flats are part of the game, and I carry a spare tube, tire irons, pump, and patch kit (in case of especially bad luck and a second flat on the same ride). When I get home I patch the tube and it becomes the spare.

With practice, an on-the-road tube replacement takes less than five minutes and is no big deal except that all my flats seem to happen just as it starts to rain, or when I have to be somewhere and am running late.
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i haven't used the liners either, but i think i may. i try to always carry a full set of allens, a pump, levers, a patch kit, and after my recent happenings i'll be carrying an extra tube also. i ride a bike because i don't want to walk, so the extra weight/bulk is worth it to me. FWIW, don't buy those cheapo "glueless" patches. they are garbage.
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Fixing a flat while riding, is no big deal,
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same here never used a liner but I loved those kevlar belted tires that Avocet used to make. when ridding clinchers I carry two tubes and patch kit. as I used to tell my customers, if you don't carry stuff to fix a flat, never ride further from home than you want to walk back. O

OH and even if you do not know how to change your tube carry a spare. the girl or guy who stopps to help might have a different size or tubulars.
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Fixing a flat while riding, is no big deal,
You can fix them while still riding? You Da Man
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You can fix them while still riding? You Da Man
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You can't completely avoid flats, that's part of the game, but keeping your tires properly inflated (check befiore every ride) helps reduce the amount of flats in general.
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Mr Tuffy liners and kevlar belted tires reduce the chance of puntures through the tread, but you can still get them through the sidewalls. Quick release hubs makes on the road tube change much easier, and eliminates the need to carry a wrench for wheel removal.
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I run Mr. Tuffies, carry at least one tube, one spare tire and a patch kit most of the time.

I rolled out the other day with none of those, but stayed on the bus route, so that was my backup.
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I did have a pump and I pumped it up every minute or so till I got close to home and ended walking the rest. When I took the tire apart it ended up having a very small piece of wood like a tooth pick. This is the first flat that I have had in 700 miles and I guess I was lucky. So the Question is do these tire liners that you put inside the tire really work or are they just junk. Also do any of you just take a spare tube and have tools with you to try to fix the tire???? To me that seems like a Pain in the A+++
So replacing the inner tube is a PITA but pumping up the tire every minute or so is acceptable?
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What tires are you running now? Just curious. I've never gotten a flat from a stick before.

FWIW, Hutchinson makes a so-called "Urban Tour" tire that comes with a hardened rubber tread layer that is supposed to reduce the risk of flats. I put a pair on a friends bike earlier this year. You might look into something along that line.
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Old 10-08-09, 11:56 AM
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I ride on Continental Gator Skins and carry CO2 (2), a tube, Pedro's tire levers (2) and a patch kit just in case.
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26X2.25 Kendra Never had a flat. I jump, crash through brush, bounce off trees, and climb rocks and logs. Too bad they won't fit on my Tarmac.
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This morning before I left for work I gave my bike a quick look over. My rear tire had a huge wafer of glass in it and the front had a goat head prong. No flats. Quality tires are about the best protection money can buy.
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26X2.25 Kendra
THAT’S what I am running on I have a little more than 400 miles on them and have been great
Someone said it was not a pain to keep pumping up my tire YES IT WAS BUT it did get me closer to home
So I going to buy another tube to carry in my saddle bag with a few tools . That is were I keep my battery pack for the magic shine. This was the front tire and that is a snap to fix the rear a little more involved but I do have a quick disconnect chain
This is like a toy to fix I have done many tire repair’s years ago fixing truck tires with the split rims. NOW that’s a major pain in the As**&) so fixing a bike tire is like a toy
I had one guy try to tell me today for me to use duck tape and line the inside of the tire
BUT I think that if the duck tape has a winkle in it would only screw up the tube
So I will just keep a spare tube for now. Hay I managed 700 mile and this was my first flat
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All of the people I ride with carry at least one extra tube and CO2 or a pump. I also carry a small patch kit.
Liners, slime, and puncture resistant tires add extra weight in the worst possible place. I think on a road bike they are too high of price to pay in performance. I stay out of grass and weeds and I fully inflate my tires before each and every ride.

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Mr. Tuffy liners are great and you don't notice them like cheap liners. I also recommend good tires and puncture resistant tubes. I live where there are all kinds of goat heads and crap and the only time I had a flat since equipping my bike is when I ran over a roofing nail with a plastic head. My tire hit the head and the nail had no where to go but through my tire, liner and tube twice. Pretty crazy. I don't carry an extra tube, because I live dangerously I guess. LOL
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I dunno. I don't worry about flats. I'm at the point where I can change a tube very quickly, and I'm on my way again. If you get enough practice, you'll get that good, too.
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After having some issues with the original rim tape causing flats after being respoked, I got pretty good at fixing flats. I could probably change most flats in 5 minutes including pump up with the hand pump. The only thing that slows me down is tires that are very tight on the rim (I'm looking at you Vittoria Randonneurs). Seriously, these things wear out my nylon levers like you wouldn't believe. I do like them, but I hate that they are such a pain to get on and off.
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Sometimes your flat is so severe you can't inflate at all. The difference between fast and slow leaks..
Liners. .?.. I usually favor Kevlar lined tires...
Seems flats come in bunches.. You might go six months without a flat and then you have four flats per ride.. last flat was a pain..
Thought I'd never get home.. I put in three new tubes.. The problem was the liner between the tube and the rim.. It had gotten thin enough that spokes were slightly rubbing against the tube.. Luckily I got get about 8 miles between new flats.. had I been more alert, maybe a solution would have been to discover which spoke was rubbing a put a dollar bill between that spoke and the spot where the flats kept re-occurring .
Yes. You had better be ready to change flat tires or you might have a long, long walk...
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Sometimes your flat is so severe you can't inflate at all. The difference between fast and slow leaks..
Liners. .?.. I usually favor Kevlar lined tires...
Seems flats come in bunches.. You might go six months without a flat and then you have four flats per ride.. last flat was a pain..
Thought I'd never get home.. I put in three new tubes.. The problem was the liner between the tube and the rim.. It had gotten thin enough that spokes were slightly rubbing against the tube.. Luckily I got get about 8 miles between new flats.. had I been more alert, maybe a solution would have been to discover which spoke was rubbing a put a dollar bill between that spoke and the spot where the flats kept re-occurring .
Yes. You had better be ready to change flat tires or you might have a long, long walk...
I make it a habit to find the leak in the old tube and then line the valve stem up so I can find the spot on the tire/rim that caused the original puncture and fix the problem before putting a new tube or patch on.
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My tube changing procedure includes running my hand along both inside and outside of the tire, feeling for pieces of glass/whatever still stuck in the tire. Sometimes a sliver of glass can give you more than one puncture, i.e. before and after changing/patching the tube.
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Checking the tire thoroughly and protecting the tube while mounting are far more important than speed when fixing flats. "Haste makes waste" has never been more true.

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