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Old 12-10-09, 04:15 PM
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What hub? 135mm wide, 36 spoke, 10 speed Shimano Ultegra cassette

Hello,

I need to find a moderate cost hub for a touring bike. I would like Shimano 105 or Ultegra quality but it needs to be for 135mm wide dropouts and a 36 spoke rim. The bike will use a 10 speed Shimano cassette.

Any suggestions?

It does not have to be made by Shimano, but I do prefer their products.

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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Hello,

I need to find a moderate cost hub for a touring bike. I would like Shimano 105 or Ultegra quality but it needs to be for 135mm wide dropouts and a 36 spoke rim. The bike will use a 10 speed Shimano cassette.

Any suggestions?

It does not have to be made by Shimano, but I do prefer their products.

Michael
Why not an XT or LX mountain bike hub? You can find nondisc ones for pretty cheap. Cannondale uses them on their T1 touring bike with a 10 speed IRD cassette. Tree Fort has a 36 hole XT for $70.
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Not a spot of trouble with the XT hub on my touring bike. The bearing races are Ultegra level and it has extra sealing to keep dirt out.
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XT is the gold standard IMO. You really can't go wrong.

Also, I personally prefer 8sp for touring... unless you happen to only tour through large towns with fully equipped bike shops of course.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Hello,

I need to find a moderate cost hub for a touring bike. I would like Shimano 105 or Ultegra quality but it needs to be for 135mm wide dropouts and a 36 spoke rim. The bike will use a 10 speed Shimano cassette.

Any suggestions?

It does not have to be made by Shimano, but I do prefer their products.

Michael
It's a pretty easy job to respace a 105 or Ultegra hub to 135mm width. I have a 105 hub built this way, currently residing on this bike:
https://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/fort/
The wheels are 36-spoke with Mavic A719 rims (different from the picture). What are you wanting to spend? I'm considering parting this bike out.
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Another happy user of an XT hub, A719 rim on a touring bike here. My wife has an LX hub, A319 rim on her commuter which also works fine and would be the more economical choice while being functionally almost identical.
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Another vote for XT or LX. LX will be cheaper, slightly heavier, and I expect will be comparable durability to XT.

Also, I'm with I_bRAD in thinking 8-speed, maybe 9-speed, is better for Touring purposes than 10-speed. Mainly because it's slightly easier to replace the chain, and the thicker chain is slightly more durable, and more importantly, easier to find replacements.
But at this point 10-speed has been around for long enough that replacement stuff isn't too hard to find, and isn't too expensive.
The other value of 8- or 9-speed is that it's easier to find wide-range cassettes, because mountain bike gruppos have come in 8- and 9-speed stuff, but not in 10-speed stuff.
I guess that's why Cannondale uses an IRD 10-speed cassette, as aftermarket manufacturers may make wide-gearing-range 10-speed cassettes, but Shimano only makes them for the road bike gruppos with max large cog of 27t.
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
Hello,

I need to find a moderate cost hub for a touring bike. I would like Shimano 105 or Ultegra quality but it needs to be for 135mm wide dropouts and a 36 spoke rim. The bike will use a 10 speed Shimano cassette.

Any suggestions?

It does not have to be made by Shimano, but I do prefer their products.

Michael
No better value to be found in hubs than Shimano in my opinion. I agree with the others who suggested an MTB hub. Deore and up is all pretty darn good stuff.
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Originally Posted by timcupery
Another vote for XT or LX. LX will be cheaper, slightly heavier, and I expect will be comparable durability to XT.

Also, I'm with I_bRAD in thinking 8-speed, maybe 9-speed, is better for Touring purposes than 10-speed. Mainly because it's slightly easier to replace the chain, and the thicker chain is slightly more durable, and more importantly, easier to find replacements.
But at this point 10-speed has been around for long enough that replacement stuff isn't too hard to find, and isn't too expensive.
The other value of 8- or 9-speed is that it's easier to find wide-range cassettes, because mountain bike gruppos have come in 8- and 9-speed stuff, but not in 10-speed stuff.
I guess that's why Cannondale uses an IRD 10-speed cassette, as aftermarket manufacturers may make wide-gearing-range 10-speed cassettes, but Shimano only makes them for the road bike gruppos with max large cog of 27t.
well, there are IRD and SRAM XX 10sp wide range cassettes available.
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Originally Posted by timcupery
I guess that's why Cannondale uses an IRD 10-speed cassette, as aftermarket manufacturers may make wide-gearing-range 10-speed cassettes, but Shimano only makes them for the road bike gruppos with max large cog of 27t.
Shimano now has an 11-28 10-speed cassette.
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Originally Posted by Al1943
Shimano now has an 11-28 10-speed cassette.
True but that isn't much of an improvement over the 12x27. Shimano 9-speed MTB cassettes offer 32 and 34T largest cogs which provide a significantly lower low gear.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
True but that isn't much of an improvement over the 12x27. Shimano 9-speed MTB cassettes offer 32 and 34T largest cogs which provide a significantly lower low gear.
Don't forget the SLX 12-36 cassette.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
True but that isn't much of an improvement over the 12x27.
I don't think it's any improvement at all. A friend of mine bought a new 11-28 because the LBS was not able to order a 12-27.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Don't forget the SLX 12-36 cassette.
Yes, but that's still "only" 9-speed. The OP was considering 10-speed.

If you go 9-speed, you can pick the color:

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