Is a deore freehub body compatible with an untegra hub?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 309
Bikes: Scott CR1, 1986 Guerciotti SLX, Mystery Ti Bike, 1990 Diamondback EX fixie
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Is a deore freehub body compatible with an untegra hub?
A friend gave me a pair of wheels with ultegra hubs, but the rear is missing the freehub body. They're fairly modern wheels, they had a 9 speed cassette on them I believe.
I saw this freehub body on ebay: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Seems like a pretty good deal, $25 and free shipping, but will it fit?
I saw this freehub body on ebay: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Seems like a pretty good deal, $25 and free shipping, but will it fit?
#3
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 309
Bikes: Scott CR1, 1986 Guerciotti SLX, Mystery Ti Bike, 1990 Diamondback EX fixie
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Really? Dang, that sucks. I thought I was pretty safe since Sheldon said:
I'm visiting family right now, so I can't tell you exactly what model hubs they are.
Virtually all Shimano freehub bodies are interchangeable. The exceptions are:
- Very early freehubs (identifiable by the absence of the typical bulge on the right end of the hub barrel) which have non-interchangeable bodies.
- Hubs that use the new "silent clutch" mechanism.
- Pre-1997 Dura-Ace freehubs, which only take pre-1997 Dura-Ace bodies.
#5
Senior member
Even within groups, there can be incompatibility. You need to know the model number of the hub to order a freehub body, not just the group level.
#8
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Too true. There's a basic incompatibility between "road" cassette bodies and "mountain" cassette bodies. The "mountain" hubs have a slight recess in the hub that the cassette body fits into. If you put a "road" body on a "mountain" hub, the body will fit, but the cogs will end up too close to the spokes and the derailleur will rub on the spokes.
I had this exact issue crop up last summer due to an on-tour emergency cassette body replacement. It left me without my big cog- but by then we were done with the most extreme climbs. I made it home OK.
I had this exact issue crop up last summer due to an on-tour emergency cassette body replacement. It left me without my big cog- but by then we were done with the most extreme climbs. I made it home OK.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
Posts: 12,258
Bikes: Bianchi, Miyata, Dahon, Rossin
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
2 Posts
I can tell you a tiagra FH-4400 freehub body will work perfectly on a 600-ultegra FH-6401 freehub, even the dust caps match up.
if it's a FH-6500 ultegra freehub, then you can use a FH-5500 105 freehub body, since they're interchangeable, but they all cost a similar amount anyways.
if it's a FH-6500 ultegra freehub, then you can use a FH-5500 105 freehub body, since they're interchangeable, but they all cost a similar amount anyways.
__________________
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
#10
Fred-ish
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,800
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
One other issue you may have is that the right dust cap my not fit well with the freehub you are buying. I usually buy a NOS hub on Ebay for about the same price as just a freehub body. Then I scavange any needed parts to make it fit. I also end up with a spare axle and a set of new bearings.
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,080
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1515 Post(s)
Liked 486 Times
in
289 Posts
Keep in mind that Sheldon had hundreds of pages of stuff on his website and it's a moving target because things gradually change. Even when he was still alive he couldn't keep everything accurately updated. As time goes by, more of his technical data is going to become dated and inaccurate.
He was still a cool guy. I had the opportunity to exchange messages a couple of times when I disagreed with him. Regardless of which of us was right, he always responded as a gentleman.
He was still a cool guy. I had the opportunity to exchange messages a couple of times when I disagreed with him. Regardless of which of us was right, he always responded as a gentleman.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 32,722
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1610 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 452 Times
in
349 Posts
There's a basic incompatibility between "road" cassette bodies and "mountain" cassette bodies. The "mountain" hubs have a slight recess in the hub that the cassette body fits into. If you put a "road" body on a "mountain" hub, the body will fit, but the cogs will end up too close to the spokes and the derailleur will rub on the spokes.
#13
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
The opposite substitution seems to work, i.e. "road" freehub bodies are usable on MTB hubs. I upgraded a 7-speed Deore LX hub to 8-speed using an older 105 freehub body and it works fine. I did have to use the 105's cone and dust cover but everything lines up and it shifts to all cogs with no interference.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 32,722
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1610 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 452 Times
in
349 Posts
That's the situation that I was saying caused me problems, but it was a newer 8/9 speed road cassette body on an old Deore XT hub shell. I think Shimano may have made slightly different interfaces between the hub and cassette body over the years- even with a large pile of parts, I'm still not entirely sure what works where.
#15
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Ain't no big thing. In any case, I think there's a subtle difference between the LX and XT hub shells and the "correct" cassette bodies.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
#16
cab horn
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,353
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times
in
14 Posts
Keep in mind that Sheldon had hundreds of pages of stuff on his website and it's a moving target because things gradually change. Even when he was still alive he couldn't keep everything accurately updated. As time goes by, more of his technical data is going to become dated and inaccurate.
He was still a cool guy. I had the opportunity to exchange messages a couple of times when I disagreed with him. Regardless of which of us was right, he always responded as a gentleman.
He was still a cool guy. I had the opportunity to exchange messages a couple of times when I disagreed with him. Regardless of which of us was right, he always responded as a gentleman.
His pages are rapidly becoming outdated unfortunately.
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 653
Bikes: 2 Centurian Ironman, Rossin Genisis, Greenspeed GT3, Stowaway (wife)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Out of ignorance I put a 9 speed mtb cassette (unknown brand and model) on a Bontrager rear road wheel and has worked fine so far. I probably only have about 500 miles on it though.
#18
Part-time epistemologist
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 5,862
Bikes: Jamis Nova, Bike Friday NWT, STRIDA, Austro Daimler Vent Noir, Haluzak Horizon, Salsa La Raza, Hollands Tourer, Bike Friday tikit
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Why not ask the guys at Loose Screws?
https://www.thethirdhand.com/index.cg...d=122538015509
For $10 -- I see $35 on their website and you quoted $25 -- I'd rather get the right part.
https://www.thethirdhand.com/index.cg...d=122538015509
For $10 -- I see $35 on their website and you quoted $25 -- I'd rather get the right part.
__________________
A narrative on bicycle driving.
A narrative on bicycle driving.