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rydaddy 01-21-10 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by BCRider (Post 10300479)
Way back when in one of my rare (?) moments of stupidity I managed to mount a 700c onto a 27 inch rim. Guess I should have checked the tire that came off the rim a little more closely. I swore a little doing it but by dang I got it on with what sounds like no more issue than what you guys are having with the Armadillo. Once I realized that the tire didn't really look right, it looked like a deflated cactus, I double checked and found my error. I could NOT get the irons under the bead and if I had they would have snapped. I had to cut the tire off. But the moral of this parable is that I got it on using the two rules; 1- keep the bead in the middle of the rim channel and 2- take small bites with the lever.

I did the same thing. Had to cut the tire off and everything. :lol:

Luckily it was an old tire...

hairnet 01-21-10 07:18 PM

steel core levers FTW

Panthers007 01-21-10 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by BCRider (Post 10301273)
I see that jack as too easy an option to ignore the use of proper technique and needlessly stress the tires and possibly the rim.

Get off my lawn!

hybridbkrdr 01-22-10 06:38 AM

I was searching the Internet for info about the Amidillos and saw a video about it on youtube. Then I clicked on other videos and this is what I saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a_Z-...eature=related

ROFLMAO! This guy is the best! :)

BCRider 01-22-10 02:44 PM

GOOD GREIF! SIGN THAT GUY UP FOR THE AMERICAN TdF TEAM PRONTO! ! ! ! :D

BCRider 01-22-10 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by rydaddy (Post 10301547)
I did the same thing. Had to cut the tire off and everything. :lol:

Luckily it was an old tire...


I'ts nice to see that my talent for not checking things as closely as I should has company... :D

In my defense it was back when I first started woring on my own bicycles. I had no idea that there were so many closely related tire sizes. I just assumed (and we know what that means don't we :D) that 700c and 27 inch were the same thing. Lesson learned in quick time.

CMcMahon 01-22-10 02:53 PM

Use the largest screwdriver you can find.

Panthers007 01-22-10 03:45 PM

That film killed me!! Ahahahahahahahahaha!!

Sixty Fiver 01-22-10 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by BCRider (Post 10304970)
GOOD GREIF! SIGN THAT GUY UP FOR THE AMERICAN TdF TEAM PRONTO! ! ! ! :D

I know a messenger service that would hire that guy...

aljohn 01-22-10 04:37 PM

I think some of you are being a little harsh . Many of us have had years of experience of fitting and removing tyres, and do actually know the correct procedure. The fact remains that sometimes you can experience real difficulty, perhaps quality control of the tyre size was on holiday when the problem tyres were made ;-( I'd never had problems fitting (road) tyres to wheels, but on a recent bike with narrow rims I have never struggled so much. I had to resort to tyre levers and managed to nip the tube even being ultra careful. I struggled to get it back off, repaired tube - then nipped the damn thing again. After that I found I was avoiding anything on the road that stood a miniscule chance of causing a puncture. The bike didn't last for long!
My latest three bikes I've swapped the tyres about with no problems at all, all by hand - 700 x 23.
So, just because you may never have had any problems please don't dismiss others who do.
No offence intended

Sixty Fiver 01-22-10 04:43 PM

I still think that replacing them with Marathons is the best idea... which can also be a pita to install.

pedalpedalpedal 01-22-10 06:00 PM

Okay so using the soapy water really helped, and I got the rest of the 1st tire on easily.


For the 2nd tire, I have the opposite problem: it doesn't want to seat in the rim!!

rydaddy 01-22-10 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by BCRider (Post 10304988)
I'ts nice to see that my talent for not checking things as closely as I should has company... :D

In my defense it was back when I first started woring on my own bicycles.
I had no idea that there were so many closely related tire sizes. I just assumed (and we know what that means don't we :D) that 700c and 27 inch were the same thing. Lesson learned in quick time.

Yup me too. That's how we learn, right? ;)

rumrunn6 01-22-10 11:09 PM

about not seating in the rim. I've had that too. just keep at it. pump up the tube a little

BCRider 01-22-10 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by pedalpedalpedal (Post 10305728)
Okay so using the soapy water really helped, and I got the rest of the 1st tire on easily.


For the 2nd tire, I have the opposite problem: it doesn't want to seat in the rim!!

That's what mine is like. It's really sloppy and won't stay centered while inflating. Stories like this make me wonder just what the quality control is like in the factory that makes the Armadillos.

I finally got mine to stay put by slightly inflating the tube but so that it was still squishy. I then had to hand center the tire's bead on the rim, put in a little more air, recenter and finally was able to blow it up to spec air pressure. If I hadn't done this the tire would have blown over the rim seat at the loosest point.

X-LinkedRider 01-22-10 11:30 PM

Those Specialized are awesome but brand new can be a ***** to install. Make sure tube is slightly inflated and placed inside of tire. Mount the tire using the valave stem in the hole first. Then work your way around from there. make sure your using a tire lever and wear a pair of gloves to make pinching the tire in all the way around A LOT easier. Most of all, good luck.

Panthers007 01-23-10 12:02 AM

Just get a VAR tire-lever. It's plastic - strong - and won't scratch of bend the rim. Makes mounting any tire easier - or just have it on hand for the monsters prowling. Waiting for you after 100 miles and numb thumbs. :bike2:

Wanderer 01-23-10 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 10300306)
chill the wheel out in the cold air or with cold water and heat the tire with hot water. be sure to get the tire down into the channel by squeezing both sides of the tire. then keep it down in that channel all the way around. be sure the tube is not too inflated.

What he said - but I always throw the new tire on the driveway, in the sun, before I even start to remove anything.

I have never, ever, had a problem, mounting any tire, with this proceedure.

Sure, you might have to go back more than once, recentering the tire, as it gets tension on it; but, it always works, even without levers.


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